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-- I would really appreciate some help :)
I would really appreciate some help :)
Hey guys I'm new around here, and I am looking to get into producing trance. My music tech teacher (guy knows a LOT about the industry) told me to pick up the Roland SP-808 so I could sample sounds and put together tracks. It does seam more suited for trance than the Akai MPC line, but I want some more opinions. I also want to make some hip hop so I want one that can do both. I want to stay away from computer software for now, anyone have any suggestions??
thanks for any help in advance!
Re: I would really appreciate some help :)
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| Originally posted by Euphorialex I want to stay away from computer software for now, anyone have any suggestions?? |
Hahaha ok now that thats solved, can anyone answer my sampler question?
I feel like the DJ booth is the wrong place for this......
but its just a huntch
Re: I would really appreciate some help :)
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| Originally posted by Euphorialex Hey guys I'm new around here, and I am looking to get into producing trance. My music tech teacher (guy knows a LOT about the industry) told me to pick up the Roland SP-808 so I could sample sounds and put together tracks. It does seam more suited for trance than the Akai MPC line, but I want some more opinions. I also want to make some hip hop so I want one that can do both. I want to stay away from computer software for now, anyone have any suggestions?? thanks for any help in advance! |
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You want to make Trance-Hop?
gangsta trance
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| Originally posted by woscar You want to make Trance-Hop? |
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| Originally posted by Euphorialex ???... enlighten me.... |
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| Originally posted by Euphorialex Hey guys I'm new around here, and I am looking to get into producing trance. . . . I also want to make some hip hop so I want one that can do both. |
If you want to have any money at the end of this you might want to consider using computer software. Unless your one of those analog elitists... I seriously don't get what you could lose from using a comp.
The two music styles, Trance and Hip Hop couldn't be further appart. They are so different, one is based on layering synths, filters and lots of atmospheric effects (Generally speaking) and the other is loop/groove based.
For the trance part I would definately NOT recomend buying a sampler.
If you are looking at creating trance and you want to go down the hardware route and not involve a computer then you are looking at buying quite a few components of equipment. Trance isn't samples and the person that gave you that advice doesn't understand the genre. Sure, trance can use a sample here and there i.e. drum samples or hihat loops or other percussive elements but you will not be able to achieve anything noteworthy with that. Not without atleast one fairly decent synth to go with it.
Any particular reason why you don't want to use a computer?
I might understand your reasons if you were talking about hardware synths vs VSTs i.e. the ol' analogue vs digital arguement, but for samples, they would be digital anyway and you would have a better work flow on a PC, not to mention way more options.
And given that PCs are a major part in the creation of trance music, you are going to have to bite the bullet at some point anyway as you would need to have a sequencer to hanlde the MIDI.
Not saying that hardware is bad but your initial investment for trance would be way more than if you just had a go with PC based stuff. Besides, a ton of stuff that gets released these days is some dude working on a PC.
With Hip Hop, well that's a different story, samples, fine, great results have been achieved and there is nothing wrong with that.
Bottom line, you can get the same results (Arguably) on a PC as you can with hardware, it will just cost you less to get there. All the principles are exactly the same when it comes to settings namely what all the buttons do on a VST vs a hardware synth.
And don't forget, trance uses a lot of effects so you would need modules for that too. They differe greatly in quality and price. Then you are also going to need to compress, again compressors can range from cheep as chips to items that you would have to sell your house in order to buy (I'm not kidding).
I'm not saying don't do it, but I would consider your options before taking this persons advice, as I said before, I don't think they know the genre very well.
Cheers
Nem
Well what's it going to be? Hiphop or Trance?
There is no both. 2 completely different genres and cultures.
Let alone 2 vastly different production styles.
Geez, even for production I'd say pick up 2 1200s and a numark and go crate digging, for hiphop. That sampler stuff can come later.
Trance Production? On a sampler? Yeah it "could" be done...but your learning curve vs. a production system like Logic, which is probably better to learn for production in general (and you can make teh hiphops with it) is the better way to go. I will personally guarantee that any "Trance" track made on a sampler will be poo.
You have a lot to learn bucky boy. Go bother the production heads in that "other" forum. This thread is Troll City.
Honestly the 808 is a allmost purely hip-hop machine. It defines Miami (and also southern) hip-hop. Its what gives alot of Lil Jons beats that down low shake your car apart rattle.
Your teacher may know about that side but stick to the advice given here and just go with a computer program.
BTW your teacher saying "dont use a computer program..." jeez if im not mistaken 9th Wonder is a very indemand producer and he only uses Fruity Loops...
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