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Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Mar-03-2009 00:34:

How do YOU define a professional?

pro⋅fes⋅sion⋅al [pruh-fesh-uh-nl]
�adjective 1. following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder.

Its sooo weird how open to interpretation this word is.

Like when I'm producing, I can make 4 bars of a track that sound "professional".
But as a whole, when I go back and listen to the best of my finished tracks, only some at best sound amatuer. If I make an excellent track that I'm happy with, sometimes I may say to myself "yep you're a pro", untill the next day or 2 when I'm listening to some genuine pro tracks and I think "ok.. you're no where near pro".

My question here is how many people here call themselves a pro?
And even how many people will say they're just amatuer?

What makes a pro?
Is it someone who makes a single hit track or (durade, I know they have more tracks but they will always be known for Sandstorm and nothing else by avg folk)
Or is a pro more like Blank and Jones? Someone who consistently can make tracks that are just pristine and clear, well organized and complete?

Its crazy how when I'm producing, I get this weird narcisstic "I am the shit" feeling when I hear some of the things I can do.
Than I hear a pro track and instantly I'm always humbled.

I think more than anything I really just aspire to be a pro. Not for money, not for anything else but the knowledge that I can make something 99% of producers out there most likely can't.

So what makes a pro iyo?


Posted by echosystm on Mar-03-2009 00:43:

i am


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Mar-03-2009 00:45:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
i am


How are you so sure?

I get confused because an amateur can accidentally make pro tracks and pros can accidentally make amateur tracks (which they most likely hide from the world).

I'm trying to draw a line in my head so I know when I cross it.


Posted by Subtle on Mar-03-2009 00:59:

Thats actually a good question.

I`d say anyone who makes significant income out of it.


Posted by jupiterone on Mar-03-2009 01:23:

jean reno


Posted by echosystm on Mar-03-2009 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
How are you so sure?


because i said so


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Mar-03-2009 03:06:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
because i said so


someone else told me you werent


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Mar-03-2009 03:33:

Isn't being a pro about getting your track really loud and crisp using analog compression and sidechain?


Posted by jupiterone on Mar-03-2009 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Isn't being a pro about getting your track really loud and crisp using analog compression and sidechain?




yessssssssssss!


Posted by parafrNalia on Mar-03-2009 03:59:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Isn't being a pro about getting your track really loud and crisp using analog compression and sidechain?



It's not funny anymore. Stop saying it.

Technically, yeah... a professional is somebody who gets paid...


Posted by Stef on Mar-03-2009 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by parafrNalia
It's not funny anymore. Stop saying it.

Technically, yeah... a professional is somebody who gets paid...


He isn't joking, give it a try.


Posted by wing on Mar-03-2009 04:25:

professional = tiesto
tiesto = professional


Posted by parafrNalia on Mar-03-2009 04:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Stef
He isn't joking, give it a try.


Even funnier.


Posted by spolitta on Mar-03-2009 04:54:

Practice and vast knowledge of mixing tools and arrangement techniques will make anybody a Pro, but it takes lots of time depending on how hard you try. Of course no one can be a pro without at least some knowledge in music theory and sound design, the more complex you like to produce the more you need those two. Also you have to have the right equipment, not just expensive high end gear but the right tools for your application and you need to know your tools inside out. One last thing you need in order to be a pro is a goal; Why do you want to be a Pro? Wanting to become a pro in itself is not a goal!
These are just my humble opinion, fell free to disagree.


Posted by echosystm on Mar-03-2009 05:10:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
someone else told me you werent


they got confused


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Mar-03-2009 05:12:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
they got confused

when you told them you were a pro cause you said so?

I did too, not a suprise


Posted by atxbigballer1 on Mar-03-2009 05:13:

If your Music don't make you any money then your not a PRO!


Posted by echosystm on Mar-03-2009 05:16:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I did too, not a suprise


dont feel bad, i'm a prodigy, its normal for people to not understand


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Mar-03-2009 05:37:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
dont feel bad, i'm a prodigy, its normal for people to not understand


a self absorbed narcistist u mean?
i concur


Posted by echosystm on Mar-03-2009 05:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
super awesome internet guy u mean?
i concur


you bet, babe


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Mar-03-2009 05:49:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
you bet babe ,


Thanks, thats what I call my GF.
So I guess you wanna kiss me too?


Posted by echosystm on Mar-03-2009 05:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
So I guess you wanna kiss me too?


this song summarizes what i want
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HFMVN17ni4

call me


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Mar-03-2009 05:57:


Posted by EgosXII on Mar-03-2009 06:11:

hahaha
thread makes me happy

still tho, why are there so many threads going about how inadequate people are feeling about their own skillz?

surely professional implies a technical ability to make a living off of your work, not as much the sound you produce...

that's just called skill.
if you're skilled and you make a living off of that skill THAT's a professional person in their field (aka echo*)...


as a side note, is that deep song real???


*example may be biased/completely false.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Mar-03-2009 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
this song summarizes what i want
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HFMVN17ni4

call me


are you the girl or guy?
i prefer you be the girl baby.

ur turnin me on.


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