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Posted by miamitranceman on Mar-07-2009 17:50:

Star Trek

Caught the third trailer in "Watchmen" last night and I gotta say this looks pretty damn amazing. Having JJ Abrams take over the franchise was the best thing they could've done.


Here's a link to trailer 3 if you haven't seen it.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/


I have high hopes for this.


Posted by Cpt.Cocaine on Mar-07-2009 18:26:

It can't be worse than nemesis.


Posted by miamitranceman on Mar-07-2009 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine
It can't be worse than nemesis.



+ a million


Posted by smekzg on Mar-07-2009 18:54:

star trek used to be a pussy, now it looks damn sexy


luv the new ship


Posted by cmay119 on Mar-07-2009 20:48:

So is this movie supposed to be about the events that happen after what happens in the beginning of Star Trek: Generations?


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Mar-07-2009 20:50:

i love sylar! syler whatever the fuk his name is.

i was screaming it out when my boyfriend was watching the 3rd trailer today.


can't wait for this


Posted by BTG on Mar-07-2009 21:32:

comes out on my birthday. my gf can't say no this time 8)


Posted by miamitranceman on Mar-07-2009 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by cmay119
So is this movie supposed to be about the events that happen after what happens in the beginning of Star Trek: Generations?



Actually it goes back before that to the original series (Kirk/Spock/Bones/Scotty etc.) from the 60s and picks up when they first met.

Should be good.


Edit: Next Gen takes place about 75 years after the Kirk era, fyi.


Posted by cmay119 on Mar-07-2009 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
Edit: Next Gen takes place about 75 years after the Kirk era, fyi.


Yes, I know the about the time line between the original series and TNG. Remember at the beginning of Generations, Kirk takes temporary control of the Enterprise (I think 1701-B), and gets captured in the Nexus.

The trailer has a guy talking to Kirk (not necessarily James T. Kirk), about how his father was captain for 12 minutes. That's about the same amount of time that James T. Kirk was captain on the enterprise B when he was blown out of the ship and sucked into the Nexus.

I do see a young Spock there though... So I'm just going off a theory that kinda correlates with what happened at the beginning of Star Trek: Generations.

EDIT: This part of Generations is what I'm talking about :

Part 1:

Part 2:

Part 3:


Posted by miamitranceman on Mar-08-2009 00:18:

Yeah, there's definitely some time travel going on in this one because if you've seen the 2nd version of the second trailer (not on the official site oddly) it shows Nimoy as an old Spock at the very end instead of Nero.


Posted by Domesticated on Mar-08-2009 00:39:

Star Trek is to science fiction as AIDS is to humans.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-08-2009 00:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Star Trek is to science fiction as AIDS is to humans.


Lol, pretty much.


Posted by NeoPhono on Mar-08-2009 00:53:

cmay119...this is a "reboot" of the series. Although it has a similar cast of characters and universe, it is not necessarily supposed to "fit" with what's already out there. There is a time-travel plot involved, which from what I hear is supposed to be after Nemesis. Basically a Romulan goes back in time to try to kill Kirk/The Federation before it can have it's impact on the future. Unless you want to count that as continuing the past movies, it's not supposed to have anything else in common. There's enough footage out there that I'm sure people could piece together some way in which this is intimately related to past movies, but it's not.

Yes, I'm a geek, and yes, I'm hoping this movie rocks.

There is a limited series of graphic novels that are supposed to be the build up and back story to this movie. I haven't read it though.


Posted by NeoPhono on Mar-08-2009 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Star Trek is to science fiction as AIDS is to humans.


OK, I'm not saying you have to like it, but show a little respect. Star Trek was a pioneer in the genre and its mainstream acceptance.


Posted by cmay119 on Mar-09-2009 02:44:

quote:
Originally posted by NeoPhono
cmay119...this is a "reboot" of the series. Although it has a similar cast of characters and universe, it is not necessarily supposed to "fit" with what's already out there. There is a time-travel plot involved, which from what I hear is supposed to be after Nemesis. Basically a Romulan goes back in time to try to kill Kirk/The Federation before it can have it's impact on the future. Unless you want to count that as continuing the past movies, it's not supposed to have anything else in common. There's enough footage out there that I'm sure people could piece together some way in which this is intimately related to past movies, but it's not.

Yes, I'm a geek, and yes, I'm hoping this movie rocks.

There is a limited series of graphic novels that are supposed to be the build up and back story to this movie. I haven't read it though.


After posting the videos I realized there were too many plot-holes to be a proper explanation for this movie. The battle scenes in this movie look pretty awesome, though. I'm definitely looking forward to it.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-09-2009 03:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Star Trek is to science fiction as AIDS is to humans.


this would have more weight coming from someone that didn't like stargate


Posted by Domesticated on Mar-09-2009 03:28:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
this would have more weight coming from someone that didn't like stargate


Okay,

Stargate:

- Decent action scenes where people get shot, things explode and there's movement.
- Semi-believable science with a grounding in the real world.
- Average and somewhat cliche acting. Some decent funny lines on occasion.
- Cool alien races.
- Some hot women showing flesh every now and then.

Star Trek:

- Boring scenes which involve people who may as well be sitting in their lounge room yelling at the TV. "Fire phasers!", "Go to warp speed 6!"
- Shitty, ridiculous science. Why is it that when the engines get blown to pieces they can always be fixed from the control room?
- Horrible acting. The original series gets a break because of how old it is, but the new stuff is deplorable.
- Shitty aliens with plasticine stuck to their heads who really aren't that different to humans anyway. Borgs are gay.
- Weird looking bitches with about as much appeal as your own mum.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-09-2009 04:46:

hahaha yeah that's all true, but as far as being able to sit down and watch some episodes, ill take star trek NG or DS9 any day of the week. in fact, i really should try and watch the whole DS9. it tried to copy what B5 was doing at the time and by all reports was moderately successful.


Posted by miamitranceman on Mar-09-2009 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
hahaha yeah that's all true, but as far as being able to sit down and watch some episodes, ill take star trek NG or DS9 any day of the week. in fact, i really should try and watch the whole DS9. it tried to copy what B5 was doing at the time and by all reports was moderately successful.


Hell yeah.

You should definitely try all of DS9, or at least the Dominion War arc from late season 5 through the end of the series (season 7).
Same for you Domesticated. Watching that will definitely change your tune on ST.


Posted by Scottaculous on Mar-09-2009 15:37:

Picard is the best captain.


Posted by Acton on Mar-09-2009 15:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Scottaculous
Picard is the best captain.


Wrong.



Posted by Capitalizt on Mar-09-2009 16:53:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
Hell yeah.

You should definitely try all of DS9, or at least the Dominion War arc from late season 5 through the end of the series (season 7).
Same for you Domesticated. Watching that will definitely change your tune on ST.


I agree..It kicked ass.


Posted by THE_Chris on Mar-09-2009 18:26:

I'm looking forward to seeing this, but I do think 2 other things -

1) This needs to be considered almost as a standalone film not connected with the Star Trek we know, as it'll piss all over the established timelines.

2) It still reeks a bit of Star Trek 90210.


Posted by Zoso on Mar-10-2009 00:40:

I'll watch it, but only because the genre and the greater economy need my hard earned dollars.

Also, with BSG coming to a close, I'll need something new to get off on.


Posted by miamitranceman on Apr-01-2009 01:35:

FYI, a sequel is already in the works. Hopefully the fans will think the new movie deserves a sequel!

http://www.variety.com/article/VR11...egoryid=13&cs=1


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