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Posted by dJohn on Jun-14-2002 00:05:

Mixing style

Curious...what blend of mixing do you prefer? The fast, relentless hardhouse/trance slamming style of the likes of DJ Irene, or the beautiful, structured programming taste of the likes of S&D?
I mix a little bit of both...start out slow and uplifting, or slow and dark, progress into a housey, techno-ish feel, then back up into trance heaven, and cap it off with either a huge trancer or slow it back down to start where I began.

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Jun-14-2002 18:52:

i prefer being relentless. i like slamming down stomping track after stomping track with no time to stop and think.. or to stop moving... except for a mix into a breakdown here and there to make people think "maybe he's done"... but alas the beat comes back hard.

S&D's style is good... for something to listen to during boring sex or something...

blah @ slow, meandering progressive stuff... kinda reminds me of a horse-draw carriage ride across the country...

-mer

Posted by FuzzyGreen on Jun-14-2002 22:08:

I find that s&d's mixes are boring and don't take me anywhere. Just a flat line. Blah.

Posted by Dj Flesch on Jun-14-2002 22:15:

I prefer to watch djs that know how to slam it home on the mixer, but I prefer to dance to nice flowing mixes.

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Jun-14-2002 23:25:

good! someone who agrees S&D is sleep choons!

i think everyone likes them just because they got rated #1 DJ... haha... followers!

-mer

Posted by dJohn on Jun-14-2002 23:55:

Many say that S&D are boring...compared to fast hard house and trance DJ's yeah they are boring, but their track selection and programming and mixing skills are fucking great. While it is a bit easier to mix prog house and trance, their mixes are really fascinating and cool...
Then again, house shaking booty romping floor flattening house and trance is fucking awesome as well.

Posted by zapper on Jun-15-2002 00:27:

It all depends on the music, the harder & faster the music, the harder & faster the mixing (generally speaking).

Posted by DJ LIQUID on Jun-15-2002 01:30:

quote:
Originally posted by dJohn
Then again, house shaking booty romping floor flattening house and trance is fucking awesome as well.

I spin what he said

when im tired sometimes ill spin some downtempo stuff...but its still got that flava

Posted by k-cee on Jun-16-2002 05:26:

S&D's style of mixing easy and boring! You must be joking! Did u guys really listen how smooth and seamless their mixes are?

Posted by Luke Terry on Jun-16-2002 08:19:

quote:
Originally posted by k-cee
S&D's style of mixing easy and boring! You must be joking! Did u guys really listen how smooth and seamless their mixes are?

yes, prog is piss easy 2 mix, coz its so lifeless, flat and blendable because of its blandness and length, 9 out of 10 times 2 prog tunes will go together, if u mix proper trance there will only a couple of tunes in ur box that would fit as equally well as the prog 1s.

Posted by fr0st on Jun-16-2002 08:34:

Sasha and Digweed are masters behind the decks, and prog house is not easy at all to mix, maybe all the beats are simillar but they are slow and slow means a lot of drift inbetween beats and less beats to work with where as most the other stuff is a lot faster and you have a lot more to work with. Not to mention their phrase matching is perfect it almost sounds as if one song just want to force the other out. Paul van Dyk is all a very technical mixer while Paul Oakenfold is more of a track selection dj, im not saying he isn't good(we all know he is), its just his mixing is not at tight as Sasha Digweed, or PVD for that mater, he has a awesome track selection and when i say awesome i mean just about anything he plays is gold.
peace,

Posted by Tak on Jun-16-2002 08:55:

A wise man once told me

Have the skill to mix gradually
Have the courage to slam it in
have the wisdom to know the time to do each.

that wise man was me.

Anyway, both styles are good, I use them both but they have to suit the tracks you are playing.

Posted by Luke Terry on Jun-16-2002 09:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Tak
A wise man once told me

Have the skill to mix gradually
Have the courage to slam it in
have the wisdom to know the time to do each.

that wise man was me.

Anyway, both styles are good, I use them both but they have to suit the tracks you are playing.

The wise man has spoken and is right

Posted by djxtension on Jun-16-2002 19:39:

There is only one style: your own style.

But my style is standard I think: start off slow with some progressive/house tunes, and end with some harder trance-stuff or maybe even techno.
I just mix the tunes that fit well, I don't do much tricks, because I'm not good enough to do them...

Posted by Kama on Sep-01-2002 02:57:

Sasha and Digweed are the shit at what they do. Mixing prog takes skill b/c it relies more on subtlety rather than crazy-ass slamming. The mixes are longer to so constant readjustment and bpm matching are essential. It's more like building a mood and shifting ever so slightly (or more)... one big groove.

progressive lifeless????????
what are you listening to?

Posted by 531.am on Sep-01-2002 03:20:

fast ass 144 BPM Trance in your face!!

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Sep-01-2002 03:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Kama
Sasha and Digweed are the shit at what they do. Mixing prog takes skill b/c it relies more on subtlety rather than crazy-ass slamming. The mixes are longer to so constant readjustment and bpm matching are essential. It's more like building a mood and shifting ever so slightly (or more)... one big groove.

progressive lifeless????????
what are you listening to?

right now? chris c - hoover damn (nick rafferty mix).. much faster

slow progressive is lifeless to alot of people, even if s&d's skills are dope

-mer

Posted by DJ-Kuza on Sep-01-2002 05:37:

I like S&D and hard trancers. It's all about time and place. Sometimes I like the deep groove of prog house, sometimes I like the sweet sounds of prog trance and other times like when driving I like the hard in your face trance with more energy then a can of jolt cola. Saying one is boring means you just havn't heard it in the right place and time.

Posted by matt_a on Sep-01-2002 11:16:

I love S&D's style as I love progressive and just groovin to stuff like that. Problem with Prog that I find with alot of my non-trance friends is that they don't give it a chance. They listen to 10 seconds and go. "Oh that's boring shit" They should sit down and listen to it right through AMAZIN
But I also love the hard slammin stylea all the way to Psy Trance. I love it all and every style ahs it's own way to mix it.
For Prog I generally mix it gradually in so it's harder to recognise song changes, by slowly ajusting EQs etc. I must say mixing prog is piss easy and does get very boring after a while. Just slowly turning those knobs.
And for more bangin style trance it depends on what songs. Some deserve the thrashing changeover and some deserve to be mixed gradually. Generally when I'm listening to a set that is slammin down bangin trance I love to hear the bass line change so I love to just change the bass line at the right spot. Realy gets you going.

Anyway it's up to you whatever you like best just do it.

BTW I love mixing into the intros in Psy Trance. They have the best intros for mixing into! EG MWNN - Vavoom!

Keep mixing it up, don't restrict yourself to one style!

Cheers