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Posted by elena on Jun-14-2002 04:02:

Thumbs down U.S & soccer....odd

is it just me or do you also think the u.s and soccer just dont go well together....stick to other sports!
basketball, football, baseballl...leave soccer alone

they play kinda rough too..in the korea vs. u.s match
during a little over half time...korea: 7 fouls
U.S : 25 fouls

i hate mathis..what retardness wearing that mohawk


Posted by zarathustra on Jun-14-2002 10:22:

Americans just don't have the patience for The Beautiful Game. They're used to offensive type sports where things happen faster. Soccer is more about carefully setting up the perfect play since that's what it usually takes to score a goal.


Posted by plastikE on Jun-14-2002 16:25:

*Cough* Portugal *Cough*.....
We're starting to get better every year it seams in this so called ''non-american sport'' how about this deal: America will stay away from soccer if the rest of the worl stays away from basketball AND baseball....they just plain suck at these sports.
deal?

<>plastikE<>

oh ya my predictions: USA wins cup in 2006, Germany


Posted by elena on Jun-15-2002 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by plastikE
*Cough* Portugal *Cough*.....
We're starting to get better every year it seams in this so called ''non-american sport'' how about this deal: America will stay away from soccer if the rest of the worl stays away from basketball AND baseball....they just plain suck at these sports.
deal?

<>plastikE<>

oh ya my predictions: USA wins cup in 2006, Germany


well....you should be thanking korea right bout now...
but you get to play the easier team..BLEH
POLAND WHOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPED YER ASSSSS HAHA


Posted by dEsidEL on Jun-15-2002 23:10:

KarateKid dun think so ..

quote:
Originally posted by plastikE
*Cough* Portugal *Cough*.....
We're starting to get better every year it seams in this so called ''non-american sport'' how about this deal: America will stay away from soccer if the rest of the worl stays away from basketball AND baseball....they just plain suck at these sports.
deal?


i dunnoooo man .. there are so many good international players going into the NBA in the next couple of years and some that are already there. And let's not forget that the US almost LOST to Lithuania in the Olympics. And that the #1 pick this off season draft will be a Chinese guy. It's a sign of the times.. the world it catching up. I give the US maybe 8-10 more years before another country wins the gold medal in the Olympics. :]

And baseball?? Sure there are a lot of good American players but if you took all the best latin, Canadian and asian players in the MLB and put them on one team I'm quite sure they could give the US a run for their money. I mean half the all-stars in baseball are practically latino players and let's not forget Ichiro haha and all those other Asian players slowly trickling into the league. I give baseball maybe 4-6 years of "US dominance". :]

The way I see it the only sport you guys will own in the next decade will be American football which is just about the only sport that the rest of the world could care less about or plays for that matter.


Posted by Nadi on Jun-15-2002 23:38:

One of the reasons America doesnt generally have as good a soccer team as the rest of the world is because people dont make as big a deal as they do in other countries. Our pro league never sells out, and no one ever watches. So the kids dont ever get into it. But sports like basketball and football that everyone watches are the sports people want to play, and the sports they work to become a pro at. In some countries soccer is so important politicians get involved, and the people there want to play it much more, becuase they see so much more of it.


Posted by Pam on Jun-15-2002 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Nadi
One of the reasons America doesnt generally have as good a soccer team as the rest of the world is because people dont make as big a deal as they do in other countries. Our pro league never sells out, and no one ever watches. So the kids dont ever get into it. But sports like basketball and football that everyone watches are the sports people want to play, and the sports they work to become a pro at. In some countries soccer is so important politicians get involved, and the people there want to play it much more, becuase they see so much more of it.


I agree with you there...we don't take it seriously and it's not very popular over here as in other countries around the world. It's like a religion to others. I admit, I hope no one from the US considers me a traitor, but we do suck in the soccer department, and I'll kill myself if the US team wins the World Cup...I'm cheering for any European country such as Ireland, England, and Germany. It's weird how baseball, American football, and basketball isn't popular all around the world except here...I guess we're dumb like that and try to be different. Kinda off topic, but does anyone know where the word soccer come from? They should just call soccer football and American football handball or something because it doesn't involve alot of kicking it all.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jun-16-2002 01:41:

KarateKid elsewhere...

baseball is popular in central america/carribean, as well as in Japan and Korea.. at one point the soccer coach for Korea was so upset that Korean baseball was getting more coverage than soccer before the world cup kickoff.. that has likely changed.

Basketball is quite established in Europe too.. there are pro-leagues there and a lot of players that come out of the NCAA who are not drafted by the NBA go overseas to play and to eventually come back and play for the NBA. There are also basketball leagues in Asia and Australia as well but not as big as the ones in Europe.

Basically the rest of the world is starting to catch up with the US in terms of pro-sports. Foriegn countries are hiring US coaches and trainers to develop their players in their respective countries. Soccer is the perfect example. Look at all the developing soccer counties who employ foriegn coaches. Again just another example of how globalized sports is getting.

It's just a shame tho that the US doesn't care too much about soccer. My brother working in Boston told me that most of his co-workers didn't even know that the World Cup was happening this year. And I also remember a poll on CNN.com that showed 85% of respondants claim to not plan to watch any games at all. There is final a single sport that the entire World considers as the 'universal game' and the US does not hold much importance on it. I just hope that your (US) leagues improve over the next couple of years so that you guys become more active participants. Soccer is truly an amazing game that has an almost surreal feeling to it when you know that the whole world (but the US) is watching.


Posted by Xavier on Jun-16-2002 04:47:

well done US


Posted by Nadi on Jun-16-2002 05:21:

I think I have a theory about Why we(americans) dont pay that much attention to soccer. Its the same reason as hockey and baseball(by the way those 3 are the least watched of the *major* sports over here) its because of the infrequenty of goals being scorred. In all those games points not being on the board make it more exciting, but a lot of my freinds list that as one of there major dislikes with these sports. So as long as the games stay low in score most people will continue to pay them no attention.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jun-16-2002 06:14:

KarateKid tru..

i remember seeing a sports documentary about this theory one time. A soccer coach said something along the lines that American's need a 'score' in order to understand what's going on in a game. Without a score they feel lost and find it hard to get a understanding of which team is in control.

The principle with soccer is totally different.. the reason why it's exciting is the fact that goals aren't scored very often. It's almost like a chess game. The whole game is spent strategizing and positioning for some final outcome. That buildup is what makes the game exciting. I guess for most Americans that's something that will never be fully understood.


Posted by BeatFreak on Jun-17-2002 14:07:

Oh please. Soccer is just the next sport we're going to dominate in. Give it time.


Posted by serialkillah on Jun-17-2002 14:17:

quote:
Originally posted by BeatFreak
Oh please. Soccer is just the next sport we're going to dominate in. Give it time.



hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe LoL


Posted by arrows on Jun-17-2002 14:30:

Good Luck against Germany !!


Posted by serialkillah on Jun-17-2002 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by arrows
Good Luck against Germany !!


yep I hope U defeat them, but then you need a big-ass miracle


Posted by Walter Mindz on Jun-21-2002 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by arrows
Good Luck against Germany !!

quote:
Originally posted by serialkillah
yep I hope U defeat them, but then you need a big-ass miracle


What an aweful thing to say!!!! This is Germany vs. Saudi Arabia Pt.2, except a little bit less goals this time around. No miracles exsist when playing Germany, so therefore the States WILL LOSE! GO GERMANY GO!!


Posted by sebby on Jun-21-2002 05:55:

First off, I live in Los Angeles. Once there was a match between USA vs. Mexico. Guess who had the home field advantage. I think the US will have to wait at least 20 years before they get a good shot at the cup. As for 2006, sorry to say this but Germany will kick ass. It would be a shame for them to lose in front of their home crowd.

If you look at Poland, they were dominant in the 70's and 80's and got 2nd place along with two 3rd places. How frustrating. If anyone deserves the WC, it's teams like Poland, Portugal, Spain and previous World Cup winners. No offense, but teams like USA, Korea, Japan, Senegal, and Turkey shouldn't win.

For example, look at Korea. They won their first ever WC match two weeks ago. For them to win the World Cup this year would totally suck. I mean don't get me wrong, I like them, but other teams deserve it more. Besides, the final match is in Japan. If Korea gets that far, they'll wish they were back home.

What's totally fucked up is that USA has all this money to create a great team, that they have a better chance to win the WC than some of the other countries out there, but they will never have a better chance to win the WC over the elite soccer teams out there, and we all know who they are.

Nevertheless, I'm still going for USA. How ironic. I wouldn't mind seeing Germany, Spain, or England win the cup. I like Brazil too, but they already have enough trophies. Time for someone else to win it. Lates.//


Posted by malek on Jun-21-2002 09:05:

plain and simple for why Soccer isn't big in the US. It IS NOT MADE for TV broadcasting. There's no time off for ads, only two periods, the game just doesn't stop. That's why it will never get big there. TV coverage brings money for ads, news coverage, special shows, etc etc its all a big media machine. For example, Hockey got bigger and bigger in the US in the last 10 years because basicly it got customized for american tv, any canadian fellow will understand exactly what I mean by that (games in the afternoon, or no games when there's a big football game, etc.).

Its sad but TV decides of what's on and what's off.

BTW: soccer is the most practiced sport by young canadians, far off ahead of hockey or any other sport... but where's the coverage?


Posted by Kurve on Jun-21-2002 18:32:

US played damn well agaist germany my hats go off to them ..... the players live soccer like any other players of anywhere else .... but i guess most people like me even though im half american/german dont full rout for them is US doesnt take the game to serious it will always be secondary sport for this country and the world doesnt want to see them win and beat countries where soccer is the biggest thing to them..... i just one day this country would take it more serious ..but for the american players they played great agaist germany but they just need to be one step higher to beat a team like germany ....


Posted by DJ Sean on Jun-21-2002 22:51:

Lightbulb

Being an American who played Soccer (futbol) his whole life I can say that there are in fact many people in the U.S. who love soccer. I woke up early for each and every game. I just hope that the top players in the U.S. opt not to go over to European leagues and that they stay here for the MLS. That way the quality of soccer being viewed by Americans will be more entertaining and skillful. We have some young stars who can and will be a national force in years to come. Many people over here are ignorant to such a beautiful sport in soccer. I hope that one day people over here will finally realize that Soccer is clearly the top sport in the world. People have started to wake up to this now that the U.S. Team had a good showing this World Cup. I hope that by the time Germany 2006 comes around that the following will only be much bigger. SOCCER RULES!


Posted by elena on Jun-22-2002 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by sebby
...
If you look at Poland, they were dominant in the 70's and 80's and got 2nd place along with two 3rd places. How frustrating. If anyone deserves the WC, it's teams like Poland, Portugal, Spain and previous World Cup winners. No offense, but teams like USA, Korea, Japan, Senegal, and Turkey shouldn't win.




WHO THE FUCK MADE YOU GOD?


Posted by quddha on Jun-22-2002 02:13:

Guys, this world is moving towards globalization. Soon, every country with a good sports program will be competitive in whatever sport they choose. There's a big increase in multiculturalism in professional sports, and we're seeing the rise of african and asian teams in soccer. Hockey is no longer dominated by Canada and Russia, and give it time, maybe a long time, but eventually Basketball will no longer be dominated by USA, as popularity increases worldwide.


Posted by sebby on Jun-24-2002 00:32:

Originally posted by miss e
quote:
WHO THE FUCK MADE YOU GOD?


YOUR MAMA!!!!!! BITCH!!!!


Posted by mr. poopyhead on Jun-24-2002 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by quddha

Hockey is no longer dominated by Canada and Russia,


olympics? gold medals? canada OWNS hockey!
rocket richard winner? iginla
art ross winner: iginla
lester b pearson award: iginla
hart trophy: jose theodore
vezina trophy: theodore
jennings trophy: patrick roy
selke trophy: mike peca
lady byng: ron francis

the rest of the trophies were won by euros.... but still.. canada is slowly taking hockey back...

anyways.. this thread is supposed to be a about soccer.. so i'll shut up right now, =P.


Posted by Virus on Jun-24-2002 05:34:

Interessting thread.

It is very strange that the worlds largest sport isnt big in the US.

Ive heard that Americans get restless because the lack of pauses during football games. Thats why the sport isnt making it big. Dunno if that is to be believed though.

Ahead of the World Cup 94 in USA, the american organizers tried to change the game. They seriously asked FIFA if it would be possible to make the enlarge the goals and remove the offside rule "to make the game more entertaining". lol!

And stop calling football soccer!


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