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Plane crash in Montana claims 17 lives
Sun Mar. 22 2009 7:18:04 PM
The Associated Press
BUTTE, Mont. � Seventeen people, including several children, were killed when a small plane crashed Sunday in central Montana, a U.S. Federal Aviation Administration spokesman said.
Spokesman Mike Fergus said the single engine turboprop plane departed from Orville, Calif., and that the pilot had filed a flight plan showing a final destination of Bozeman.
Fergus said the pilot cancelled his flight plan at some point and headed for Butte. The plane crashed about 150 metres from the airport while attempting to land and caught fire.
Fergus said preliminary reports indicate the dead included numerous children. He said there were no known fatalities on the ground.
"We think that it was probably a ski trip for the kids," Fergus said.
Fergus said the plane was registered to Eagle Cap Leasing Inc. in Enterprise, Ore., but he didn't know who was operating the plane.
Calls to local authorities were not immediately returned.
Fergus said the Pilatus PC-12 aircraft was manufactured in 2001. He said the National Transportation Safety Board has an investigator located in Butte who was thought to be on scene. The FAA's flight standards investigator was en route.
The plane crashed in Butte's Holy Cross Cemetery at about 2:30 p.m. MDT, The Montana Standard reported in a story posted on its Web site.
Kenny Gulick, 14, who lives near the airport, told the newspaper that the plane was clearly in trouble.
"All of a sudden the pilot lost control and went into a nosedive," Gulick told the newspaper. "He couldn't pull out in time and crashed into the trees of the cemetery."
Martha and Steve Guidoni were near the cemetery at the time of the crash.
"We had just came out of the gas station, across from the cemetery, and watched it crashed. It just nose-dived into the ground," Martha Guidoni told the newspaper. "My husband went over there to see if he could do anything."
http://cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CT...2/?hub=CP24Home
I guess a celebrity had to be on the plane to get some RIPs in this thread. 
Yeah I heard about this, so sad. 
One prop plane I think though.
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| Originally posted by El K Dee I guess a celebrity had to be on the plane to get some RIPs in this thread. |
Also in the news... a two-seater Cessna 152 plane crashed into a cemetary near Gander NFLD.
The Tiger Search and Rescue Team has recovered 300 bodies so far and expect the number to climb as digging continues into the evening.
Very sad
It seems to be getting scarier and scarier to fly....just doesn't seem as safe as it use to with all these incidents in the news lately
way too many plane crashes off late...
I dont understand why they close their flight plan in the air. (If you close the flight plan, search and rescue is never initiated. search and rescue is initiated if the flight plan is not closed on time. It can be closed after you land).
Unfortunately, it will take a while to find out what caused the accident. 
Fly safe~
Cpt djshan
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| Originally posted by Dancing*Queen Very sad It seems to be getting scarier and scarier to fly....just doesn't seem as safe as it use to with all these incidents in the news lately |
Air travel is still statistically safer than driving a car sure, but there's no small fender benders when it comes to airplanes...you're probably fucked if something goes wrong.
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| Originally posted by djshan Well, flying is the safest method to travel these days. It all depends on how well the pilot's are trained. Canada is the best when it comes to training pilots. Im saying this, becuase im a flight instructor myself. |
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| Originally posted by Abercrombie So you're instructing now? WTG! I rly wanted to have you and my gf up a couple of years ago, and uinfortunately, it didn't work out. I still have you in my rolodex |
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| Originally posted by Abercrombie Also in the news... a two-seater Cessna 152 plane crashed into a cemetary near Gander NFLD. The Tiger Search and Rescue Team has recovered 300 bodies so far and expect the number to climb as digging continues into the evening. |
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| Originally posted by VDub Such an old joke AJ... |
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| Originally posted by djshan Yeh sorry couldnt get back to you on that one, there were so many people wanting to go... i ended going up myself |
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| Originally posted by Skipper Air travel is still statistically safer than driving a car sure, but there's no small fender benders when it comes to airplanes...you're probably fucked if something goes wrong. |
for some reason i am more afraid to fly as i get older...i'm gonna have to pop some pills next month when i fly to punta cana..
RIP to all the peeps who lost their lives...very sad..
how do 17 people die aboard a plane that seats like 12 people?
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| Originally posted by activate how do 17 people die aboard a plane that seats like 12 people? |
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| Originally posted by activate how do 17 people die aboard a plane that seats like 12 people? |
sad news
A Fed ex plane crash and burned in Japan too, planned tip over in its side as it hit the tarmac. Pretty crazy :\
A PC-12 in Canada is limited to 9 passengers and two pilots under single engine IFR regulations. I'm not sure what the American regs say, but even if they differed it seems like too many people in the plane. I have about 300hrs flying PC-12s from years ago, so I have a pretty good working knowledge of the plane and it's capabilities. There could be an exemption if many of the deceased are under 2yrs old, then they wouldn't be counted as taking a seat.
DjShan: where are you instructing now?
Skipper: There certainly is lots of "fender bender" kind of incidents that happen every day. You just don't hear about them because you're not involved in the industry, and it didn't end up in a news friendly fire ball. WestJet took a 737 off the end of the runway in Ottawa last winter. No one died, no one got hurt, but the plane was stuck in a snow bank. I bet ya not even 5% of people on hear heard about that one. Super close call, but no one heard about it. WestJet also took a plane off the runway in Thunder Bay last winter. Didn't hear about that one either right? Porter flew into severe turbulence this winter, had to divert to Montreal to have passengers taken away by ambulance. Didn't hear about that one either right?
Lots of stuff happens every day. As a general rule, unless it ends up in a fire ball, or Air Canada is involved, it's never reported.
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| Originally posted by King_Mack sad news A Fed ex plane crash and burned in Japan too, planned tip over in its side as it hit the tarmac. Pretty crazy :\ |
odd...was listening to the radio earlier and they said there were 14 passengers now
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| Originally posted by King_Mack sad news A Fed ex plane crash and burned in Japan too, planned tip over in its side as it hit the tarmac. Pretty crazy :\ |
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