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Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Mar-24-2009 22:26:

gabba / hardcore / speedcore / darkcore...

any other fans on this forum?.. or is it just me?

Posted by creon444 on Mar-24-2009 22:28:

You make the baby unicorn cry

Posted by answer?:gsmile: on Mar-24-2009 22:29:

just you.

i have heard better music made by flatulent apes.

Posted by sljiva on Mar-24-2009 22:51:

I like some hardcore (mainly the early stuff that was coming out on Industrial Strength, PCP and Rising High), and although I hate when people say that all hardcore is shit, I must say it's one of the least creative genres out there with the highest % of shit released.

I also like some breakcore (Venetian Snares has a new album out!!!), but the situation with it is highly similar to that of other "core" genres with just a slightly smaller % of shit released.

Basically most of that music (you can add schranz in there as well) is made for freaks who want "harder, faster, stronger", and I (and many other people) think that music which is designed with just that in mind is not exactly intriguing, exciting, beautiful, subtle, entrancing, creative, innovative... (or whatever the hell people search in music) and worth of their time. Electronic music can offer so much more...

Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-24-2009 23:34:

I haven't been keeping tabs on the new stuff as much as I should. I get discouraged too easily with all the hideous newstyle-ish stuff that gets churned out these days. Always up for lending an ear to new stuff from people like The Outside Agency, Producer, Ophidian or Manu Le Malin though.

Posted by Aaron C. on Mar-24-2009 23:37:

Rossz Csillag Allat Szuletett by Venetian Snares is the only thing along those lines i appreciate. But then again that album is more drum & bass or breaks. Other then that i don't like those genres.

Posted by chesco on Mar-25-2009 00:09:

I quite enjoyed some of the old mix tapes my older brothers used to bring back from the rezerection events. also got loads of old hardcore records about the house, loads of stuff on ruffneck alliance for example which i got quite into as a young whipper snapper. Listening to the records now I have a bit of a wtf expression..

Good at the time but.

Posted by Meat187 on Mar-25-2009 00:24:

I have some old Thunderdome CDs. Does that count?

Oh and:

quote:
Originally posted by answer?

Sod off, elFreak.

Posted by Domesticated on Mar-25-2009 00:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Sod off, elFreak.

Wow, you managed to deduce that this was elFreak, something everyone knows but didn't bother mentioning because it was so obvious. Good for you.

Regarding hardcore, gabber etcetera, I think they're stupid. They seem to be very "dumb" with no real subtlety or musical value. It's funny though, most people who don't understand electronic music seem to think the same about 130BPM house or techno, so it may just be that I don't "get" gabber and hardcore.

Posted by distant on Mar-25-2009 01:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Surfmorworkless
Rossz Csillag Allat Szuletett by Venetian Snares is the only thing along those lines i appreciate. But then again that album is more drum & bass or breaks. Other then that i don't like those genres.

???????????????????????

y'all have some fucked up definitions in here.

Posted by Psy-T on Mar-25-2009 01:38:

hey pete

Posted by sljiva on Mar-25-2009 01:43:

Yeah, where exactly have you spotted d&b or breaks on Rossz Csillag Alatt Sz�letett? The only track that could sound like d&b or breaks to an untrained ear is �ngyilkos Vas�rnap because it features some weird and undefined rhythm pattern, but everything else is breakcore of the highest kind mixed with some classical instruments. Rossz is together with My Downfall the most distinctive VSnares record and probably my favourite one as well.

Posted by Noisician on Mar-25-2009 02:47:

well if it isn't mr. sock molester himself. how is it chugging along, you hairy old cuntflap? started on that track of yours already? i'm still around (barely).

Posted by Aaron C. on Mar-25-2009 06:49:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
Yeah, where exactly have you spotted d&b or breaks on Rossz Csillag Alatt Sz�letett? The only track that could sound like d&b or breaks to an untrained ear is �ngyilkos Vas�rnap because it features some weird and undefined rhythm pattern, but everything else is breakcore of the highest kind mixed with some classical instruments. Rossz is together with My Downfall the most distinctive VSnares record and probably my favourite one as well.

Well i don't listen to much d&b or breaks. But it's alot closer to those genres imo then to 4/4 based house or anything of that sort, then again i haven't heard that album in like three years.

Posted by distant on Mar-25-2009 07:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Surfmorworkless
Well i don't listen to much d&b or breaks. But it's alot closer to those genres imo then to 4/4 based house or anything of that sort, then again i haven't heard that album in like three years.

but it's a lot closer to 4x4 house than it is to country.

Posted by lacksesepsotygh on Mar-25-2009 07:24:

i smell the blood of an english muffin

there's heaps of good hardcore out there.

Posted by Aaron C. on Mar-25-2009 07:29:

quote:
Originally posted by distant
but it's a lot closer to 4x4 house than it is to country.

Posted by Trance-M on Mar-25-2009 11:40:

DJ Lady Dana

Posted by Gauss on Mar-25-2009 11:45:

This isn't bad:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Litt...release/1298296

Posted by Trance-M on Mar-25-2009 19:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Gauss
This isn't bad:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Litt...release/1298296

Kurwastyle Project - De Hoer (2:12)

He must have visited Holland, The Whore

Posted by smellyblack on Mar-26-2009 01:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
I have some old Thunderdome CDs. Does that count?

Oh and:

Sod off, elFreak.

i guess your location and mp3 collection are co related

what 7 replies to your shit maybe

Posted by Trance-M on Mar-26-2009 19:48:

Seems that there a still a lot of fans. Just positive reactions on this one at Youtube
A track for 303 lovers with a great piano breakdown. Yes, even hardcore can be beautiful.

SOUND OF THE ROTTERDAM!!!

Posted by Darkarbiter on Mar-26-2009 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
I like some hardcore (mainly the early stuff that was coming out on Industrial Strength, PCP and Rising High), and although I hate when people say that all hardcore is shit, I must say it's one of the least creative genres out there with the highest % of shit released.

Industrial strength is definitely quite good.

hell even

has quite a bit of artistic value and thats speedcore.

+theres tons of great hardcore tracks I've heard in DNB sets. Regardless of the average quality, theres definitely some decent stuff out there.

Also

Which is dark gabber apparently, looks a lot like hardstyle, only its actually good.

Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Mar-26-2009 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Industrial strength is definitely quite good.

hell even

has quite a bit of artistic value and thats speedcore.

+theres tons of great hardcore tracks I've heard in DNB sets. Regardless of the average quality, theres definitely some decent stuff out there.

Also

Which is dark gabber apparently, looks a lot like hardstyle, only its actually good.

the first 3 tracks arnt bad.. lenny dee - the dreamer is one of my old faves.. but the newer stuff [like the stormtrooper track] even tho is still hard, is probebly more accessable and likeable by people i think.

personally my current style is darkcore.. like the stormtrooper track

Posted by wotyzoid on Mar-26-2009 23:16:

I got into Ophidian back in the day for a little while. Never went anywhere from there.

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