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Trance Production

I want to work my way up as a Trance Producer. I have general

understanding about Filters, Reverbs, Phasers etc... But I don't know a

pro-like understanding to how it works...how it should be modified to a

good sound level. I don't know about sound and its frequencies. I also

don't know about EQing-which is a major part. Is there any site or

information you can give me, to how to learn about Trance and its sound

and the mechanics.

You are asking a lot. This all comes with experience. No short cut. That being said, you can start here:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...037&forumid=48&

Re: Trance Production

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Originally posted by ivofivo But I don't know a pro-like understanding to how it works...

You don't need a pro-level understanding. Don't concern yourself with being a pro because you've got a LONG way to go before that happens. As Numb mentioned, there are not shortcuts - jump in and start doing it, learn from your "mistakes", educate yourself, ask questions, find tutorials, etc.

But, most importantly, realize that it's not about the filters, and the EQs, and the compressors - it's about the music, so focus on getting good musical ideas before you waste days/weeks/months polishing turds.

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Originally posted by Numb You are asking a lot. This all comes with experience. No short cut. That being said, you can start here: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...037&forumid=48&

agreed and also learn how to train your ears. can make a massive difference.

I have been playing a piano for over five years now. Ever since a kid I have had talent in terms of sound. I am not worried about the music/tune making aspect; its the tools to use that I am worried about.

Learn by doing... make a track no matter how shitty it sounds, post it in forums or show to friends, get feedback (and return it of course), and try to apply anything that people tell you to improve to future tracks. Music making is a very active thing .. sure you can learn everything in theory. But thats the painful path... actually making tunes, trying out new techniques on every new tune gains you practice and is a lot more fun.

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Originally posted by ivofivo I have been playing a piano for over five years now. Ever since a kid I have had talent in terms of sound. I am not worried about the music/tune making aspect; its the tools to use that I am worried about.

Any sequencer, synth, compressor, equaliser, delay, reverb will do the job tbh.

u can very often also get alot of help in the manuals of the gear u are using.

Best bet I'd say is to get as many Future Music and Computer Music videos as possible off youtube and google video. Search via google video obviously, as this will list google and youtube vids.

Some are listed down the page here:


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My personal favourites are the bushwacka, d. ramirez, ian carey and benni bennassi - (not because it's particularly informative, more because it's fun!). There's also the airbase tutorials which are good.

There's hours of good stuff out there.

Start by making the beats etc when you get stuck on something post here and we will help as best we can. Then do it again next time you get stuck etc etc.

Also there are loads of tutorial in the tutorial master list. Also there is a trance masterclass in reason on Computer musics website under tutorials. That helped a lot it wil teach you synth basic programming and arrangement everything and you end up with a trance tune at the end. They also have sneak previews stage by stage to see if your sound matches up to theirs.

http://www.tranceproduction.com/

**THIS IS WHAT YOU DO**

I'm serious, but its not always something people can actually do.
FIRST, find out what sequencer you're gonna spend the majority of your time with.
Ableton, FL Studio, Reason, Sonar, Logic or w/e.

Get all the demos, read about them, and FIRST figure out which one you think you'll be using.
THEN

Find someone who knows in depth how to use that specific software. If you think about it, you can consolidate your goal this way from learning this, this and this to just learning Cubase.

Learn the program, how it works and what all the goodies do. If you can literally sit down with someone who knows w/e program you choose, and even offer to pay them (post an ad on Craigslist in the musician section) you will learn about a thousand times quicker than watching endless tutorials and reading manuals.

I WISH I did this when I started, now I just do it for other people.
I'd honestly say ditch everything everyone else said (or at least put it on the back burner for now) and start here.

G/luck!

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox If you can literally sit down with someone who knows w/e program you choose, and even offer to pay them (post an ad on Craigslist in the musician section) you will learn about a thousand times quicker than watching endless tutorials and reading manuals.

Absolutely!

Regardless, even if it's not the program you're using, if you can find someone who actually knows what they're doing and watch them work, getting them to explain to you what they're doing and why they're doing it, you'll have a much better appreciation for the ins and outs of music production.

If you can cobble a song together and get them to come over - or transport the song to their place - and let them fix it for you, while you watch, you'll also be much better off.


Don't, whatever you do, get caught up in thinking that your next release is contingent on your next piece of gear. There are absolutely some essentials like a keyboard that transmits MIDI to a reliable computer and a decent pair of speakers. If you get caught up in gear lust because you're not getting that "sound" you want, you don't know your rig well enough.

"Dance Music Manual" is a good read, perhaps the best for what you are looking for, and copying your favorite trance tune can help a lot too, seriously. Keep reading these forums, and be realistic: it is going to shit loads of time and practice, so don't be hard on yourself when your efforts seem futile. If you get stuck, and you will, stop what your doing and try something else (i.e. practice programming your favorite VST, start a new track, download a remix pack, try some vox FX, READ THE MANUALS FOR THE SOFTWARE YOU HAVE). And yea, you don't need hardware at this stage, and wont need it for a while, so don't get thinking that hardware is essential, or you will likely be purchasing disappointment. Good luck!

Oh yea, depending on your personality, you may respond better to amateur comparisons than pro, so keep this in mind if the pro stuff sounds impossibly good and makes you feel bad.

Thanks for your help guys! I feel much better with this Forum now.

Long way has yet to come, and I will keep in touch for some more advice .

I truly believe that I can achieve of being a good DJ. I have so many

ideas to how create my songs and melodies.

Trance Production

I saw these online courses reviewed in DJ magazine this month.

It seems like you get a lot of course materials plus I like the idea of uploading your tracks and getting pro feedback on your music.

Has anyone tried the Trance one?


www.pointblankonline.net

And thanks for all the advice so far BTW!!

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