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Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-29-2009 23:23:

My Progressive Trance Retrospective 1997-2000

Gather 'round, all mid to late 90s GU-owners, gather 'round!







Remember when these guys used to play trance? No? Well, I do. It seems like labels remember as well, as tons of the old tunes these guys played back then are now available digitally. Therefore, I decided to use that as an opportunity to make my own recap of some of my favourite tunes from those years.

Now, obviously, this period was dominated by Sasha and John Digweed, who were trendsetters back then instead of the trend followers they are now. So with this set, it was important for me to avoid most of the obvious tunes that these two played to death back then (although you will certainly find two or three that will be familiar to anyone who listened to their sets). Whether I was successful or not in doing that, well, that's up to you, the listener.

Some disclaimers:

* Yes, I know the mix into Beyond Centauri is a mess.
* Yes, I know that not all of these tunes are strictly progressive trance.
* Yes, I know that not all of these tunes were released between 1997 and 2000.
* Despite the "progressive trance retrospective"-tag, this set is more about the approach and sound of that era, and less about the exact tunes and genres.
* This is MY retrospective based on MY tastes, so don't get mad if one or more of your favourites from these years aren't in here.
* I wouldn't expect anyone to bother listening to both parts for 4 hours straight in one sitting, so I've structured both parts to function as cohesive sets seperately.

Right, enough chat, down to business:

Sand Leaper - Progressive Trance Retrospective 1997-2000

Part 1

Elegia - Grid One
Furry Phreaks - Want Me (Like Water) (Presence Dub)
MRE - The Deep Edge
X-Pact - The Ocean
Changing Shape - Behind The Face
Medway - Resurrection '99
Interstate - CC16 (Expansion Remix)
Sander Kleinenberg - My Lexicon
Swift Movers - Sonic Regret
Alchemy - Bruiser (Evolution Mix)
Tenth Chapter - Whiteland
Starecase - First Floor Deadlock (Divided By Zero Mix)
Miller & Floyd - Time (Fortress Remix)
Pob - Boiler (Humate Mix)
Jark Prongo - Cerosai
Dulux Connection - Let's Beuk
Smith & Selway - Move
Interflow - Beyond Centauri
L.S.G. - The Train Of Thought 1.1
Jondi & Spesh - We Are Connected (Active Love Mix)
ABA Structure - Illusion
Frontside - D�mmerung

Part 2

Z2 - I Want You (Moshic & Zidan Remix)
Tilt - I Dream (Tilt's Resurrection Mix)
Dominion - Outsider (Subtania Mix)
Skynet UK - Holdin' On (Black Ice Remix)
Bradley - Rush
Jimpy - Talkin'
Sourmash - Pilgrimage To Paradise (B.L.I.M.'s Bourbon Bass Remix)
L.S.G. - Netherworld (Ivan Remix)
Interflow - Area 51
Christopher Lawrence - Defiant
Rapscallions - The Amsterdam Express
Salt Tank - Rezmorize
Tipple - Discoveries (Dos Deviants Mix 1)
The Light - Opium (Distant Places Remix)
Albion - Air (Palefield Mountain Remix)
Dune - Boomerang (Quivver's Boom Q Mix)
Canny - Take Me Up
Mother's Pride - Floribunda
Johan - Crash (Funk Function Mix)
Lava - Din (Der Dritte Raum Remix)
Pablo Gargano - Farringdon
Kolo - Edge Of Forever
Humate And Rabbit In The Moon - West
Young American Primitive - Sunrise


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Posted by SYSTEM-J on Mar-29-2009 23:48:

Oh shit.


Posted by Max Thomson on Mar-29-2009 23:48:

nice one, much respect to you sir.


Posted by Light The Fuse on Mar-29-2009 23:55:

awesome


Posted by Ted Promo on Mar-30-2009 02:19:

So in on this.


Posted by enydo on Mar-30-2009 02:22:

Looks sick.


Posted by Unique2701 on Mar-30-2009 10:15:

Yessah.


Posted by THE_Chris on Mar-30-2009 16:38:

There goes the bandwidth


Posted by pwnage1 on Mar-31-2009 05:55:

God this looks good.


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Mar-31-2009 08:37:

fuck yes.


Posted by montana on Mar-31-2009 16:52:

swans


Posted by montana on Apr-01-2009 16:37:

i liked this alot, we talked earlier about the the palefield mountain remix of air and you managed to mix out of it well. mixing in general was really good, beyond the few slipups. i think the only transition that bugged me was the mix out of the big c remix of floribunda, it worked but also not, it killed alot of the vibe building with it.

ye, great trackselection otherwise.


Posted by SPANIARD on Apr-02-2009 14:37:

Listened to part 2 and it kicked me bum


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Apr-02-2009 16:58:

I listened to these while working on a corpus linguistics project, so my attention was not fully on them, which should be kept in mind regarding these comments.

I enjoyed this as much as I expected to. I think you did a very good job of avoiding the Sasha & Diggers progressive sound which tends to dominate retrospectives of this era. Not that there's anything wrong with the Sasha & Diggers sound, but it was nice to hear a set from this era that didn't sound like it wanted to be in Twilo.

What I didn't really get was a sense of structure. As I've said, I wasn't listening closely, but aside from the second part feeling a bit more energetic than the first part I didn't feel like the set went from a start to a finish or built up to anything. An example is how you used the Tilt track early in the second half. This is probably the definitive monstrous breakdown in all of progressive trance, and such a massive build and pay-off, for me, wants to be more of a climactic moment. You dropped this very early in the set, after only about 12 minutes of groove, which isn't very much over a 140 minute set.

That said, I don't think a lack of structure (if that's actually the case) harmed the set very much. It was still great stuff to listen to, and aside from the occasional error the mixing did the job perfectly well.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Apr-02-2009 18:04:

Firstly, thanks to all of you for listening and giving me feedback. It is much appreciated, as I put quite a bit of effort into this one.

quote:
Originally posted by montana
i think the only transition that bugged me was the mix out of the big c remix of floribunda, it worked but also not, it killed alot of the vibe building with it.


I agree with this. I wanted to wind down the set after Floribunda, but following it up with Crash makes it wind down a bit too quickly.

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
What I didn't really get was a sense of structure. As I've said, I wasn't listening closely, but aside from the second part feeling a bit more energetic than the first part I didn't feel like the set went from a start to a finish or built up to anything. An example is how you used the Tilt track early in the second half. This is probably the definitive monstrous breakdown in all of progressive trance, and such a massive build and pay-off, for me, wants to be more of a climactic moment. You dropped this very early in the set, after only about 12 minutes of groove, which isn't very much over a 140 minute set.


This, however, I have to say I disagree with. The main reason for that is that I don't see I Dream as a climactic track at all, despite its mega breakdown (especially when you compare it to tunes I DID use for the climax in this set). The way I see it, the tune can only really be used in two ways without flatlining your whole set: either at the very end as a firm period (like Sasha did on GU San Francisco), or at the very beginning to mark the start of a phase in the set, which is what I did.

Otherwise, I personally felt that the structure is quite well defined, getting gradually lighter and more driving before hitting its peak with Air and Take Me Up. But if the general sentiment from people who download the set is the same as yours, I guess I'd better get back to the drawing board.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Apr-02-2009 18:43:

As I say, I was working while listening so my attention wasn't rapt. I have personally used I Dream as an opening track, starting it in the breakdown along with some moody ambient as an intro, so I understand what you're saying, but I think the use of a fairly long intro track before it lessened the effect of using it as a piece of punctuation or grand opening.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Apr-02-2009 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I have personally used I Dream as an opening track, starting it in the breakdown along with some moody ambient as an intro, so I understand what you're saying, but I think the use of a fairly long intro track before it lessened the effect of using it as a piece of punctuation or grand opening.


Yeah, I can't argue with that. Using both Z2 and I Dream to achieve that effect is definitely a bit too much.

The perfectionist part of me wants to just redo the whole set now, but I think the set ultimately doesn't suffer too much from the two issues brought up so far.


Posted by Unique2701 on Apr-07-2009 21:53:

I mainly listened to the 2nd part, which won't be a surprise to you I guess. Really enjoyed that one a lot What is the intro track? I love that one. I do agree with Montana on Floribunda though it's one of my favorite tracks. Mixing is good, with a few exceptions. Not much to add, just good shit!


Posted by Sand Leaper on Apr-08-2009 19:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Unique2701
I mainly listened to the 2nd part, which won't be a surprise to you I guess. Really enjoyed that one a lot What is the intro track? I love that one.


Thanks. That's the second half of Frontside - Dammerung. I split the set in the middle of it. You really should give part 1 a go as well, though. It gives part 2 a lot more context.


Posted by sunsurge on Apr-08-2009 20:21:

Yep, this looks great, yep.

Will let you know my thoughts, but can't fault the tracklist really!


Posted by Sand Leaper on Apr-21-2009 14:10:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
thought i bump this. been listening on repeat a few days as my music library is on an external disk and not connected beacuse im fixing my livingroom, with this two sets in the background. its fucking awesome. alot of stuff i havent heard before and it sounds fresh! one bad transition and one bad pitching (too much too fast so it sounds false), rest ispure class. u from norway btw?
does this set exists as one file only btw? i like both parts especialy late part1 and early part2 so like the mid part of everything is class.


Cheers, glad you liked it.

The set does exist as one file. I have a feeling that listening to the entire set in one go will make the issue SYSTEM-J pointed out seem a lot less prevalent, as it provides a lot more context than putting on Part 2 straight away.

I'll try to upload the whole big file when I get home, but I can't promise anything. The wireless connection I have in my current apartment is ridiculously poor. If it doesn't work, you'll have to wait until I move back home next week.

And yes, I am from Norway (Kristiansand to be exact). I'm currently taking my internship in NYC, hence my location.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Apr-29-2009 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
I'll try to upload the whole big file when I get home, but I can't promise anything. The wireless connection I have in my current apartment is ridiculously poor. If it doesn't work, you'll have to wait until I move back home next week.


Voila: http://www.zshare.net/audio/593687435b022295/


Posted by Sand Leaper on Apr-29-2009 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
think about pitching issues next time though, i have to skip those two tracks each time.


Which two tracks?


Posted by Sand Leaper on Apr-29-2009 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
in pt2 at 34-35 mins and the next track 39-40. its REALLY terrible, i hate pitch shifting, ud be better of doing that in a track with less melody if u absolutely have to do it.


I presume you're talking about Rush and Talkin'.

While I agree that the shifting is noticeable if you pay close enough attention, I cannot for the life of me see how you could find it so disturbing that you have to SKIP the tunes altogether. Firstly, neither Rush nor Talkin' are particularly melodic tracks. Secondly, the shifting is done in short bursts spread out over a short period of time during the intro of both tracks, not in big and glaringly obvious pitch bends during the busiest part of the tunes, which is what you're making it sound like.

But either way, if more people have as big an issue as you have with this, I will take it into account.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Apr-29-2009 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
also at 1:41 - 1:42


I didn't shift the pitch at any point during D�mmerung (it has too much going on for that), so that must be an issue with the actual recording, as I don't hear any pitch bending at that point in the 4-hour file.


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