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Posted by cronodevir on Mar-31-2009 19:43:

Looking for Inspiration.

Is there a compilation of some kind or somewhere I can go to hear some hard dance or hard techno? Something with a big lead and pounding kicks and such? I want to make a hard dance track, but I haven't heard enough to really do it.

Posted by owien on Mar-31-2009 20:09:

damm you tube wont embed lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1DPaUf7dF4&feature=related so try this and see if it is what you are after if so i will post more up for you.

Posted by cronodevir on Mar-31-2009 20:58:

stuff like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HmvmVVrego

Ignore the dancing..lol

Esp like the stuff with the big saw leads and melodies.

Posted by owien on Apr-01-2009 00:48:

ha ha yeah now we are talking try this then my friend...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH9OJ5Fcols

Posted by owien on Apr-01-2009 00:54:

of course things like big leads ect will be hard to come across in hard trance these days. gyver nick sentince our some big guns in the scene. als try this site banging tunes.com its purely about the hard shit

Posted by cronodevir on Apr-01-2009 01:00:

DI.FM "Hardstyle" has alot of what I am looking for. I'm trying to see how Bass works in this genera..

Ive already got an idea for a track and the lead melody started, it will be something hardstyle ish, with a bit of goa elements in it, but i want a hardstyle bass. This is also my first track in Cubase so its a whole new expriense to be honest.

Posted by owien on Apr-01-2009 01:09:

so here is a bit more i think you will dig he he http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVIevVCo8mM
this is a better example. its all made up of so many diffrent genres these days makes it hard to find the area you like

Posted by owien on Apr-01-2009 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
DI.FM "Hardstyle" has alot of what I am looking for. I'm trying to see how Bass works in this genera..

Ive already got an idea for a track and the lead melody started, it will be something hardstyle ish, with a bit of goa elements in it, but i want a hardstyle bass. This is also my first track in Cubase so its a whole new expriense to be honest.
cubase is odd to use and as far as hardstyle basslines go can be made by layers and synths plus distort

Posted by cronodevir on Apr-01-2009 01:15:

trying to figure out how to do this "reverse bass" where the kick hits and the bass is "sucked out" or something...or maby its all the kick lol

listening to di.fm atm pretty spiffy stuff

i just heard a hardstyle song with orchestra elements in it, now that is something i can dig alot, it had violins organs and a pulse lead..lol

the thing with the bass is how they are composed, i can make the sound easy

the hard part is making tracks with alot of energy, which ive not really done before

Posted by owien on Apr-01-2009 01:35:

quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
trying to figure out how to do this "reverse bass" where the kick hits and the bass is "sucked out" or something...or maby its all the kick lol

listening to di.fm atm pretty spiffy stuff

i just heard a hardstyle song with orchestra elements in it, now that is something i can dig alot, it had violins organs and a pulse lead..lol

the thing with the bass is how they are composed, i can make the sound easy

the hard part is making tracks with alot of energy, which ive not really done before
its all trial and error the thing i found helps is make a cool pattern then try and put the bass behind it so you know what you want the bass line to do. also this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LoeYa5XWI4

Posted by Theran on Apr-01-2009 08:43:

quote:
Originally posted by owien
cubase is odd to use

I disagree, it's pretty logical! Give it a shot , I know I don't wan't another sequencer since I've been using it.

Posted by djandymac on Apr-01-2009 12:14:

quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
trying to figure out how to do this "reverse bass" where the kick hits and the bass is "sucked out" or something...or maby its all the kick lol

sidechaining can give this effect mate. Also, i dont know how to do it personally but i know that some hardstyle producers make their kicks from synths and use distortion so u get a kick and a bass sound, then as the note is changed the distortion is tuned to that note.

Posted by owien on Apr-01-2009 12:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Theran
I disagree, it's pretty logical! Give it a shot , I know I don't wan't another sequencer since I've been using it.
pardon my ignorance but i have tried cubase 4 and found it tricky to get my head round im sure in time it could be up there on my top list of daws.
but alas fl will have to do