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Posted by DjWoody on Apr-04-2009 02:21:

PVD Effect.... Woohoo... I FIGURED IT OUT!!!

Any one of you wanna give me your take on how to recreate this build up effect on Ableton. PVD uses it a lot on build ups.

http://djwoody.com/open/id

He normally does the slow down thing on build ups. And when you're fucked up, that sound fucks with you. Hehehe

The effect I'm after is more noticeable between 5 secs to 11 secs. After 10 secs, it just loops.


Posted by JmanNZ on Apr-04-2009 02:28:

yea sounds like it is just slowing down. Don't know if im missing anything else from there?

to automate tempo just right click on the tempo thing and go "show automation".


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-04-2009 02:31:

On the assumption that you're speaking to the drop in pitch without losing tempo and aren't referring to the staccato chord attacks that occur subsequent to it, it sounds like a loop of machinery lowered in pitch while it's kept at tempo over a period of time, thus creating a psycho-acoustically wonky Doppler effect, that because it doesn't really change its timing, screws with ones perception.

It can probably be done in most audio editors using a pitch shifter. In CoolEdit Pro, you can set up a pitch shift over time to a spline of your choosing.


I wish I had CoolEdit Pro.


Posted by DjWoody on Apr-04-2009 02:40:

Yeah, that drop is what I'm talking about. I don't care for the song that's coming in.


Posted by cryophonik on Apr-04-2009 02:42:

Sounds like granular synthesis to me. I'm sure Alchemy could do this, but you'd need to start with the right samples.


Posted by Theran on Apr-04-2009 10:51:

It's what Eddie said, a drop in the pitch to create a psycho-acoustic effect. If you tap your feet along the sample, you will notice that it's not slowing down in tempo.


Posted by DjWoody on Apr-04-2009 15:12:

I think having the right samples is a big part of this sound. But, I also think there's more than just a pitch drop.

If you notice it goes something like this...


Tatatatatata taa taa taaa taaaaaa taaaaaaaaaaaa taaaaaaaaaaaa

And then the rumbling comes in and it just loops.


Posted by DjWoody on Apr-04-2009 16:56:

I think Cryophonik hit the spot. It sounds a lot like Granular Synthesis.

Listen to the example on the link below. It sounds a lot like it. They just used a different sample.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granular_synthesis

Now, I gotta research this. I remember a long time ago seeing a video on YouTube showing you how to do it on Reason. I got reason, just never use it. I also remember reading something about BT being behind this technique.

What software can do this?


Posted by DjWoody on Apr-04-2009 17:31:

WOOHOOO

Thanks Cryophonik. You were right on the money. IT IS GRANULAR SYNTHESIS. I took a processed snare hit and using REplayPLAYer 3.2 granular synthesized the shit out of it. IT WORKED!!!! YOU THE MAN!!!

Here's my sample.
http://livemag.web.aplus.net/dj_woo...hesisSample.mp3

I uploaded the snare and the PVD sample here.

http://djwoody.com/open/id


Posted by cryophonik on Apr-04-2009 17:51:

No problem - glad it worked for you! Cool effect!


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Apr-04-2009 19:43:

whoa you got it right woody, congrats on that


Posted by DjWoody on Apr-04-2009 20:10:

Thanks! But Cryophonik guided me on the right direction, than I figured out the rest. Hehehe


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Apr-04-2009 20:46:

Ohh i see, Hey Cryophonik can you do this with a access virus ti?


Posted by cryophonik on Apr-04-2009 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
Ohh i see, Hey Cryophonik can you do this with a access virus ti?


Not very easily and I doubt you'd be able to nail it very convincingly using subtractive synthesis alone. Using EddieZilker's approach above, you could probably achieve the same sound, but that would require a WAV editor.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Apr-04-2009 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Not very easily and I doubt you'd be able to nail it very convincingly using subtractive synthesis alone. Using EddieZilker's approach above, you could probably achieve the same sound, but that would require a WAV editor.


Oh ok thanks


Posted by Sean Walsh on Apr-06-2009 17:40:

Nice one, you nailed it.



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