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Posted by Tsuekasa on Apr-09-2009 01:46:

DeadMau5's Sound in Finished Symphony

Well i just got his sample cd with all the sounds, dont do me any good if i cant achieve his sound. How do i get his sound in Fl Studio? Its like a reversed synth or something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8wpvC2d0kQ&feature=related

^sorry this is the correct link

Posted by Kismet7 on Apr-09-2009 02:08:

A lot of good equipment.

FL Studio is just a small piece of the sound pie.

The sound in that track i'd attribute 80% to having good equipment, 20% making use of it properly. So, yah, get some good equipment, learn it, and you too can make good sounding music.

Posted by echosystm on Apr-09-2009 02:17:

Posted by Tsuekasa on Apr-09-2009 02:29:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
You are seriously the biggest retard on this forum since Rubez.

Don't listen to Kimset7, he is widely regarded on this forum as a moron.

The synth sounds like that because the start of the notes are eaten off by a sidechain.

Why do you want to sound like someone else anyway?

I dont know how to fully use Fl studio yet, but achieving a sound i like will help me develop my own.

Posted by Kismet7 on Apr-09-2009 02:31:

in before the talentless hack echosysem throws up in this thread...

fuck...late.

Posted by Kismet7 on Apr-09-2009 02:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Tsuekasa
I dont know how to fully use Fl studio yet, but achieving a sound i like will help me develop my own.

pro tip : he can't help you, he knows jack shit (proven coutnless times), and couldn't even do the things he tells you himself. all he will do is mislead you to think you can get that sort of big sound out of just FL Studio. not even deadmau5 could get that out of just the software in FL Studio lol. So yah...get some good synths, hardware compressors (Deadmau5 would recommend you get a EL Distressor), pre amps for the synths, a good converter, some nice monitors, and a good mastering engineer, and you too can have a nice big sound.

in before more useless throwup from echosysmm.

Posted by Tsuekasa on Apr-09-2009 03:04:

From what I heard and seen, I heard some similiar sounds in covers like these. Good enough for me. And for a fact Deadmau5 uses fl studio to do rough versions of his songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76vYaNLY6Ok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b55YujnSyxQ

Posted by Kismet7 on Apr-09-2009 03:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Tsuekasa
From what I heard and seen, I heard some similiar sounds in covers like these. Good enough for me. And for a fact Deadmau5 uses fl studio to do rough versions of his songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76vYaNLY6Ok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b55YujnSyxQ

His sound definately sounds like its summed from FL Studio. FL Studio has the thickest sounding summing bus imo. My cousin use to use FL Studio, and everything he would send me would come out sounding big. But FL Studio on its own will only get you so far. A Sequencer is just a small piece of the overall sound. Big sound comes from having good equipment to process your sounds through, and then some engineering skills, and a good master. The idealists will come in here and make themselves feel better about their setup and say otherwise, buh buh software can do things...sure, but they wont get you the same sound. My advice to you would be, work on your musical skills, and when your good at making music, then I would invest in good sound.

Posted by Tsuekasa on Apr-09-2009 03:36:

well i want to know how to get sounds like in those covers. Im not trying to replicate him

Posted by Kismet7 on Apr-09-2009 03:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Tsuekasa
well i want to know how to get sounds like in those covers. Im not trying to replicate him

Well all you need is FL Studio, why not just message the person who made that cover on youtube. In the longterm though, if you want good sound, you need proper equipment, don't let anyone sell you the idea that you won't. The days of software being a good means of making good sound are kinda coming to an end as more producers are discovering this hasn't been entirely true. And to be competitive in the future you will definately need to keep up with a ever growing savy producer community who have started on software and now are adding hardware where they can afford it. Besides, I don't think software based productions will have the fidelity shelf life of hardware based productions. Im speculating, and this up for debate...In 20 years...the discrepency between the two will start to show more than it already does, and people will be able pick out music "yah this was probably made entirely on software, and this was probably made on hardware."

Posted by echosystm on Apr-09-2009 04:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
he knows jack shit (proven coutnless times)

"VSTs and analog synths might be doing the same math, but they are running through different veins".

Bro, you crack me up.

Posted by Kismet7 on Apr-09-2009 05:44:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
"VSTs and analog synths might be doing the same math, but they are running through different veins".

Bro, you crack me up.

ditto sonnny bway

Btw...donno if your a talentless hack, I just said that to annoy you.

Posted by capricorn15 on Apr-09-2009 05:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
A lot of good equipment.

FL Studio is just a small piece of the sound pie.

The sound in that track i'd attribute 80% to having good equipment, 20% making use of it properly. So, yah, get some good equipment, learn it, and you too can make good sounding music.
maybe you can flip that ratio around. you can get great sound without the best equipment, or any, probably not excellent (and you need a properly treated room for this anyways), but great is pretty good. obviously it wont sound as good as someone that has high quality equipment that knows how to use it well.

quote:
Originally posted by Tsuekasa
Well i just got his sample cd with all the sounds, dont do me any good if i cant achieve his sound. How do i get his sound in Fl Studio? Its like a reversed synth or something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8wp...feature=related

^sorry this is the correct link

tsuekasa, learn how to acheive good sound out of what you have now, and then start buying equipment. or if you have a ton of money, or think you will be making music for a long time, then buy equipment and practice and get good on that.

Posted by Kismet7 on Apr-09-2009 07:42:

quote:
Originally posted by hadi ******
maybe you can flip that ratio around. you can get great sound without the best equipment, or any, probably not excellent (and you need a properly treated room for this anyways), but great is pretty good. obviously it wont sound as good as someone that has high quality equipment that knows how to use it well.

tsuekasa, learn how to acheive good sound out of what you have now, and then start buying equipment. or if you have a ton of money, or think you will be making music for a long time, then buy equipment and practice and get good on that.

quote:
Originally posted by hadi ******
maybe you can flip that ratio around. you can get great sound without the best equipment, or any, probably not excellent (and you need a properly treated room for this anyways), but great is pretty good. obviously it wont sound as good as someone that has high quality equipment that knows how to use it well.

tsuekasa, learn how to acheive good sound out of what you have now, and then start buying equipment. or if you have a ton of money, or think you will be making music for a long time, then buy equipment and practice and get good on that.

You can flip it, but you will end up at a culdesac end eventually. You will be cracking your back at the engineering and mixing stage. Which takes away from the creative process. Things should flow. For myself, the actual music side pours like water, even the complex pieces, but threshold remains that I have to spend a lot of my time trying to mix the track to a presentable state, and then there is a ceiling on how good that can sound. With better equipment, anyone would be spending less time in trying to make things sound good, because they already sound good, and more time refining things musically, which leads to more amazing pieces of music being made. Musical ideas should ultimately be what divides music, not all the time that is spent engineering. And a lot of the music that is highly revered these days is music that is ok musically, but the sound engineering is amazing, and imo the script should be flipped on that.

Posted by capricorn15 on Apr-09-2009 08:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
You can flip it, but you will end up at a culdesac end eventually. You will be cracking your back at the engineering and mixing stage. Which takes away from the creative process. Things should flow. For myself, the actual music side pours like water, even the complex pieces, but threshold remains that I have to spend a lot of my time trying to mix the track to a presentable state, and then there is a ceiling on how good that can sound. With better equipment, anyone would be spending less time in trying to make things sound good, because they already sound good, and more time refining things musically, which leads to more amazing pieces of music being made. Musical ideas should ultimately be what divides music, not all the time that is spent engineering. And a lot of the music that is highly revered these days is music that is ok musically, but the sound engineering is amazing, and imo the script should be flipped on that.
i think if you know your equipment it shouldnt be a problem. besides if the engineering is getting in the way of creative flow, just do it after you compose the track. it is true that better equipment makes it sound better, but it is not automatic and i dont think it speeds up the process. maybe it speeds up the mixdown, but not the musical process. i used to care that tracks that aren't as good musically are being played ahead of the musically sound ones because they are engineering better, but engineering is part of the process too.

Posted by johncannons1 on Apr-09-2009 08:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
Well all you need is FL Studio, why not just message the person who made that cover on youtube. In the longterm though, if you want good sound, you need proper equipment, don't let anyone sell you the idea that you won't. The days of software being a good means of making good sound are kinda coming to an end as more producers are discovering this hasn't been entirely true. And to be competitive in the future you will definately need to keep up with a ever growing savy producer community who have started on software and now are adding hardware where they can afford it. Besides, I don't think software based productions will have the fidelity shelf life of hardware based productions. Im speculating, and this up for debate...In 20 years...the discrepency between the two will start to show more than it already does, and people will be able pick out music "yah this was probably made entirely on software, and this was probably made on hardware."

Umm because companies spend millions on R & D wouldn't the gap between hardware and software start to close more as it has done in the past decade ?
Because Computer technology is evolving ever day..

And in regards to ur 80% to 20 % statement I always thought it was more the cook than the kitchen.. I've heard countless producers say so..

Posted by dannib on Apr-09-2009 08:31:

quote:
His sound definately sounds like its summed from FL Studio

LOL

Posted by Owsey on Apr-09-2009 12:21:

Kismet, are you for real?

Posted by farris on Apr-09-2009 13:06:

Must...resist...not...replying.......

Kismet, sorry man but what a load of bull.
I've always refrained from replying to some of your comments but you make some really st00pid ones occasionally.
And you're the first one ever on here that provoked me to give a negative reply.

The days of software coming to an end?
Seriously, can you look 20 years into the future and tell us how far software has developed in terms of capability?
The gap should be getting smaller and not bigger. If there is a gap to begin with, since most comparisons are made between VST(i) and VA synths.
I'll bet that YOU can't hear if something is made with hardware or software in 99% of the times, let alone 20 years from now.

Every now and then this subforum opens a fresh can of people that seriously are misinformed or don't have any logic whatsoever to think for themselves.

Posted by Zak McKracken on Apr-09-2009 13:17:

what deadmouse is using is samples only, the gear in his bedroom is only for sponsors he has no clue how to use it and it shows when he tries to show of. rofl. that anyone wants to put their name besides his is beyond my understanding.

Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Apr-09-2009 13:19:

LOL.

Oh dear Kismet, oh dear.

Posted by Zak McKracken on Apr-09-2009 13:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
And a lot of the music that is highly revered these days is music that is ok musically, but the sound engineering is amazing

please give me an example of an amazing engineered track from today

Posted by MSZ on Apr-09-2009 13:50:

Posted by Waza on Apr-09-2009 14:04:

I feel i'm reading from a comedy sketch sometimes reading all this..

Kismet what planet are you on....

Posted by Waza on Apr-09-2009 14:04:

I feel i'm reading from a comedy sketch sometimes reading all this..

Kismet what planet are you on....

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