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[HELP] Traktor vs. Serato

so im finally buying all my own equipment this week and im not sure whether to buy traktor or serato? i've been using serato on a weekly basis when i've been dj'ing with my friend and its simple enough to use. But i feel like traktor would give me more options.... any feedback?

and what is the difference between the new traktor pro and traktor duo?

oh and sorry if there are 1000 threads about this

Re: [HELP] Traktor vs. Serato

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Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN so im finally buying all my own equipment this week and im not sure whether to buy traktor or serato? i've been using serato on a weekly basis when i've been dj'ing with my friend and its simple enough to use. But i feel like traktor would give me more options.... any feedback? oh and sorry if there are 1000 threads about this

Compromise with Torq.

Re: [HELP] Traktor vs. Serato

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Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN so im finally buying all my own equipment this week and im not sure whether to buy traktor or serato? i've been using serato on a weekly basis when i've been dj'ing with my friend and its simple enough to use. But i feel like traktor would give me more options.... any feedback? and what is the difference between the new traktor pro and traktor duo? oh and sorry if there are 1000 threads about this

What Genre do you mostly play.
What do you want from your DVS system? Simple beatmatching with a few loops and cue points.

Or would you prefer, multiple deck (4) looping, cueing, effects etc..

I know for some people if they're not that pushed about effects and lengthy layering of loops etc that serato is completely satisfactory for them.


In my opinion Serato is also a lot easier to set up. There is less tweaking. Traktor can take a little longer to 'figure' out and get working the way you want it to.

Money is also a factor as one is cheaper. Depending on which Traktor option you go with of course.

You've obviously gone to their websites and checked out what features each product has? Is there anything that you see as being necessary or anything that you think you would like but probably wont use?

i personally chose serato scratch just becuase of its simplicity...i have fx on my djm700, and i barely even use that.

i wanted a no frills dvs and serato was just that

im gonna be playing a mix of house, deep house and techno (mostly) and equipment wise i have the djm 400 and 2 cdj 400's

i've been lookin at traktor scratch duo which is only two decks which i believe is fine for what i wanna do

i guess i just feel like traktor gives you more control over mixing and gives you more features

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Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN im gonna be playing a mix of house, deep house and techno (mostly) and equipment wise i have the djm 400 and 2 cdj 400's i've been lookin at traktor scratch duo which is only two decks which i believe is fine for what i wanna do i guess i just feel like traktor gives you more control over mixing and gives you more features

Hmmm Tough call..

If you're just going for duo, i personally would probably go for Serato (this is coming from someone who has Traktor Scratch Pro)

Reason being if you're not going to get the full blown capabilities of the effects that traktor has to offer and you're only going for 2 decks. Then the simplicity as I got big pants said and the stability of serato is really appealing.

Then again the looping capabilities of Traktor might come in handy for the music you play.

I dunno, it's a toss up in my opinion.

I'd probably go for Serato as you have some effects on the djm400.

You've been able to play around with Serato, what have you thought about it so far? Is there anything you're not happy about?

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Originally posted by n3lly Hmmm Tough call.. If you're just going for duo, i personally would probably go for Serato (this is coming from someone who has Traktor Scratch Pro) Reason being if you're not going to get the full blown capabilities of the effects that traktor has to offer and you're only going for 2 decks. Then the simplicity as I got big pants said and the stability of serato is really appealing. Then again the looping capabilities of Traktor might come in handy for the music you play. I dunno, it's a toss up in my opinion. I'd probably go for Serato as you have some effects on the djm400. You've been able to play around with Serato, what have you thought about it so far? Is there anything you're not happy about?

thanks for all the input man

serato has been fine, cant complain at all actually, is the new version of serato that much better?

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Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN thanks for all the input man serato has been fine, cant complain at all actually, is the new version of serato that much better?

New version of serato?

You mean the SL3?

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Originally posted by n3lly New version of serato? You mean the SL3?

yeah the SL3

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Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN yeah the SL3

It depends, some people are saying it isn't as big an update as they thought it was going to be but then it is suppose to be the foundation of what might come of Serato's partnership with ableton.

So if you're happy with how Serato works at the moment and don't really see yourself upgrading to whatever they might come out with in the future, you're pretty safe with SL1/2, but if you want to future proof yourself you're probably better off getting the Sl3.

Only thing i'd say is that if you're getting the Sl3 you're going to spending quite a bit of money, quite a bit more than Duo.. (don't quote me as i haven't looked up prices).

I personally wouldn't purchase the SL3, not yet anyway until i knew what Serato and Ableton are going to come out with.

What you could do is look for Serato second hand. You're literally just paying for the box so you could probably find it for a steal.
That way you've got your DVS system. Buy yourself some new control vinyl/cd's.

Wait for a while until you see what Ableton and Serato come out with and then you can either upgrade or if you fancy a little change, switch over to Traktor..

I used Serato for 2-3 years, fancied a change and have been using TSP for 7 months now. Enjoyed using both, if i were starting again i'd start with Serato.

(Ps. i bought serato second hand when i bought it and was able to sell it for roughly the same price i paid for it)

I agree with n3lly. Native Instruments really protect their software against piracy while Serato let you download anything on their website, well more towards SL 3 softwares.

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Originally posted by limin_li I agree with n3lly. Native Instruments really protect their software against piracy while Serato let you download anything on their website, well more towards SL 3 softwares.

Don't get me wrong, Traktor sort out those who purchase their product. They've been continuously updating their software (which has been necessary only because they haven't ironed out a lot of the problems they probably should have had ironed out before it got released)

But it's finally nice and solid (for me anyway) and any future updates will hopefully just increase it's stability.

Serato do have free updates though and this has always been a great selling point. They're also on the ball when it comes to looking after their customer base. They have a great forum with loads of expereince and support.

It really comes down to the price and features

Serato Scratch Live SL 3 = 700 USD
: Easy to setup.
: Great supporting forums
: Soild and stable
: Video mixing for 200 bucks more


-Only one efx and that is the roll efx
-Expensive

Traktor Scratch Pro = 600 USD / 450 USD Edu Version

:Extremely low audio distortion
:20 on board EFX + Filters
:Very loud sound card

-Somewhat support forums


This is something personal, and of course you don't have to listen, and I am not scratcher, however I notice Traktor DVS is extremely fast when it comes scratching while serato (SL-1) has a little bit of double beat when it comes to scratching.

Is there a difference in the academic version of pro? I'm a student and that's a good saving right there.

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Originally posted by tintin11 Is there a difference in the academic version of pro? I'm a student and that's a good saving right there.

No.

I went with traktor after selling serato because it works better with old shitty turntables, RCA cords, and needles/carts.

Nice,
What would you say the performance of traktor is when you're playing time code vinyl, is there noticeable latency and how well does it hold pitch compared to an actual record on your tt's?

Reason I ask is because I use to run torq with time code vinyls and it was epic fail on that end.

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Originally posted by Zild No. I went with traktor after selling serato because it works better with old shitty turntables, RCA cords, and needles/carts.

According to Omega on the other thread, he got one for 300 bucks.. I dont know if there is going to be a education version of scratch duo.

Torq has the advantage of 3rd party vst plugins.

Eh if I were you, I'd just get it. Screw it hehe

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Originally posted by tintin11 Nice, What would you say the performance of traktor is when you're playing time code vinyl, is there noticeable latency and how well does it hold pitch compared to an actual record on your tt's? Reason I ask is because I use to run torq with time code vinyls and it was epic fail on that end.

No latency that I notice, and I can scratch just fine with them. Holds the pitch just fine. Feels the same as vinyl.

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Originally posted by limin_li It really comes down to the price and features Serato Scratch Live SL 3 = 700 USD : Easy to setup. : Great supporting forums : Soild and stable : Video mixing for 200 bucks more -Only one efx and that is the roll efx -Expensive Traktor Scratch Pro = 600 USD / 450 USD Edu Version :Extremely low audio distortion :20 on board EFX + Filters :Very loud sound card -Somewhat support forums This is something personal, and of course you don't have to listen, and I am not scratcher, however I notice Traktor DVS is extremely fast when it comes scratching while serato (SL-1) has a little bit of double beat when it comes to scratching.

That right there sums it up, and in my opinion the dac on traktor is more accurate in sound reproduction than in Serato. Personally, I have both and i like traktor way better. Also, traktor uses 2.0 Khz resolution vinyls, far superior than the other dvs systems out there. It states that it offers twice the resolution.

Also, the CDj-400's work with Serato natively...No timecode cd's needed.

Jay

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Originally posted by veezee Also, the CDj-400's work with Serato natively...No timecode cd's needed. Jay

u mean the serato cd's?

cause for the past year when i've been using my friend's set up hes always used them and the effects on the cdj 400's cant be used.... any way around this?

yeah on the serato cds

basically, cdj400 works at a controller with serato scratch live.

Re: Re: [HELP] Traktor vs. Serato

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Originally posted by miamitranceman Compromise with Torq.

I have no issue with torq 1.5. lots of features and works to my satisfaction.

If I were going to chose between your two picks... I would go Sereto. Just seems clean and solid. And that's how I like it.

Is Serato limited to just two decks/channels? That could be limiting for some people.

Yes.

Traktor Scratch Pro with the Audio8 sound card can do 4 decks at the same time

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