Laziness is taking over the internet

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Posted by Akridrot on Apr-12-2009 05:38:

Laziness is taking over the internet

Why is it that people are getting so lazy that they can't even click a few links, type up a page (of significance, not BS) or read more than a few paragraphs anymore? It's not even an "I don't have time" issue. Fuck out of here, Youtube, MMORPGs, Idle surfing, and Porn are not "being busy."

Nearly every time I've seen a group of people try to start a project over the internet (and this includes my own), it fails due to lazy, procrastinating layabouts. I love how everyone's so enthusiastic for the first few days or weeks, then the project is completely abandoned and left in limbo forever.

Of course, when they're writing about nothing important (look at their Myspace/Facebook/Youtube profiles) on forums and elsewhere, it's easy to accumulate tens of thousands of words and hundreds of hours wasted. Critical thinking is dying and the internet is killing it.

Posted by Akridrot on Apr-12-2009 05:40:

Preemptive Tl;dr

Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-12-2009 05:42:

"Projects" = creativity->accomplishment->money->sex

or

"Social networking" = "identity"->accomplishment->sex

See, option B is just so much faster.

Posted by SuspicionVandit on Apr-12-2009 05:43:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_Forever

It's always worth the wait.

Posted by Akridrot on Apr-12-2009 05:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
"Projects" = creativity->accomplishment->money->sex

or

"Social networking" = "identity"->accomplishment->sex

See, option B is just so much faster.

I'm just wondering where all the motivated people are? We have no shortage of creative and intelligent individuals, they're just too 'busy' doing nothing.

Option B isn't necessarily faster, it's easier. Less thought and effort is put into it.

Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-12-2009 05:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Akridrot
I'm just wondering where all the motivated people are? We have no shortage of creative and intelligent individuals, they're just too 'busy' doing nothing.

Option B isn't necessarily faster, it's easier. Less thought and effort is put into it.

Are you paying these people on your project?

Is your project mature enough that people can jump in and already see rewards from their work?

If either of those are false then good luck getting people to do shit on the internet.

Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-12-2009 05:49:

Well the "money" part of Option A is where it bogs down - you can't just get somebody to give you money for whatever internet project you've been working on, you have to sort of earn it, unfortunately.

As for option B, it's both faster *and* easier - as you said, probably requiring less thought and effort - but it gets almost instant results so far as entertainment and stimulation go. Which is really one of the ultimate points of money int he first place.

And mankind has always been rich in inspiration and poor in execution. You know, the best laid plans... and all of that.

Posted by Akridrot on Apr-12-2009 05:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Are you paying these people on your project?

Is your project mature enough that people can jump in and already see rewards from their work?

If either of those are false then good luck getting people to do shit on the internet.

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
And mankind has always been rich in inspiration and poor in execution. You know, the best laid plans... and all of that.

The truth is so ugly. There's no such thing as a free lunch; talk is cheap; 99% perspiration 1% inspiration.

Crazy how I didn't even consider how important rewards are. How many talented people are going to bust their ass bringing your idea to life just for the sake of seeing it come to life?

Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-12-2009 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Akridrot
The truth is so ugly. There's no such thing as a free lunch; talk is cheap; 99% perspiration 1% inspiration.

Crazy how I didn't even consider how important rewards are. How many talented people are going to bust their ass bringing your idea to life just for the sake of seeing it come to life?

Things like Linux or other OSS projects are probably the best example, but people still use them as a means to an end, which is money in some form or another.

Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-12-2009 06:13:

And as we all know, money is only important so far its ability to secure sexual stimulation is. Hence why people would rather twiddle with their myspaces - it gets them sex, or a least secures them the social means to gather sexual resources ("friends").

Posted by barbina on Apr-12-2009 06:45:

cor version?

/had to be done

Posted by aquila2 on Apr-12-2009 06:46:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina
cor version?

/had to be done

ya short version plz

Posted by Domesticated on Apr-12-2009 06:50:

What's your project? To come up with a new version of DXM that doesn't make you impotent?

Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-12-2009 07:01:

All of this sophisticated Australian humour is miles above my head.

Posted by barbina on Apr-12-2009 07:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
What's your project? To come up with a new version of DXM that doesn't make you impotent?

i giggled. high fives to you

Posted by boris_the_bear on Apr-12-2009 07:23:

quote:
Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_Forever

It's always worth the wait.

haha +1

Posted by Boomer187 on Apr-12-2009 14:31:

people only like new and different and fun.

Ch0p up your project into byte size piece and distribute as needed. These smaller projects will get the attention they need and you piece together everything. Kind of like in the last Die Hard.