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my ears are playing tricks on me
well i was composing/making/writing a melody/track & once i was done i was satisfied with the end result. the elements were working well together & harmony was evident. an hour later i listen to the same composition & it took at least 5-10 playbacks until i caught the groove/harmony of the composition again. everything just sounded out of tune. does this happen to anyone else?
god dammit.
this happens to me all the time being led into thinking the tune you spent time on now sounds shit. off course this can work in reverse to. just part off making tunes.
I think it is just an effect of your track going from nothing to something in a very short amount of time.
ive experienced the same when playing a loop for shit long, and also the effect will be even stronger when using headfones, and even stronger when using mdr-v6 headfones beacuse their build to make everything sound good.
Yes when playing the same loop over and over do not play it loud and take rest's every hour so you ears do not get tired. If they are they will pick up ghost sounds that you think are there and there not.
Re: my ears are playing tricks on me
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| Originally posted by hundred well i was composing/making/writing a melody/track & once i was done i was satisfied with the end result. the elements were working well together & harmony was evident. an hour later i listen to the same composition & it took at least 5-10 playbacks until i caught the groove/harmony of the composition again. everything just sounded out of tune. does this happen to anyone else? god dammit. |
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| Originally posted by Waza Yes when playing the same loop over and over do not play it loud and take rest's every hour so you ears do not get tired. If they are they will pick up ghost sounds that you think are there and there not. |
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| Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd yeah this helps a lot, i take a 3 min rest every 10 mins |
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| Originally posted by palm lol how can u be productive at that? u cant even listen through a whole song? instead of taking breaks ive just lowered the volume lately, while also trying to eliminate other noise sources in the room like air-vent, computer noise, 50hZ hum etc. These takes alot of stamina as they are constant. |
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| Originally posted by palm lol how can u be productive at that? u cant even listen through a whole song? instead of taking breaks ive just lowered the volume lately, while also trying to eliminate other noise sources in the room like air-vent, computer noise, 50hZ hum etc. These takes alot of stamina as they are constant. |
lol....
i was wearing headphones(akg 240s), & i had the composition on loop for about 2 hours straight, not to mention it was pretty damn loud.
i'll remember to keep the volume low next time, take some breaks, and invest in some studio monitors.
thx for the replies
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| Originally posted by hundred invest in some studio monitors. |
put egg cartons on your wall
Maybe this can help! Study Harmonic mixing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oze9...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGaXllDn96I
I'd agree with most of these posts on varied techniques to help your mixing and ears i.e. listen at different volumes (mainly lower), taking breaks, also use a professional reference tune that you like and switch to this often to keep the freq ranges in check.
However you said in the beginning of your post that everything now sounds out of tune. If somethings out of tune then none of the above will help. Out of tune is out of tune and you probably need to sort some of your melodies out.
i probably shouldn't have said out of tune, sorry. what i meant was during the composing stage, everything sounded perfect. about an hour later i re-listened to it and i couldn't hear the harmony(ie.strings complimenting the piano) in the composition anymore, or at least until 5-10 playbacks later my ears started to 'catch on' i guess you could say
iduno
Do not put egg cartons on your wall that does not do a single thing at all.
I also think the problem isn't exactly "ear fatigue".
Ear fatigue is not when you pick up on "ghost sounds", its when you desensitize your ears and sounds start to dull out.
I still don't think that's the issue because even when my ears burn out I still have a fairly good idea how the track sounds.
What your describing is all in your head.
I think when people are working on a track they like, they lose the ability to objectify how shitty it really sounds.
If you don't wanna wait a day to realize your track sounds like shit, take a break, put in a pro track, and when you come back you'll realize it.
Its more hearing the same sound over and over and how it starts to condition you to forget what good music sounds like
Egg cartons on the wall breaks up reverberation.
Also, this ear thing is a known phenomena called Fatiguing. Anyone who has been mastering for the last decade knows about this. Its when the ear get tired of hearing something because its too loud.
http://www.austin360.com/music/content/music/stories/xl/2006/09/28cover.html
My favorite quote from that article: "Compression works on recorded music the way MSG works on food: It makes everything sound more more."
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| Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox What your describing is all in your head. I think when people are working on a track they like, they lose the ability to objectify how shitty it really sounds. |
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