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So what happened to trance then?

Hey all,

I was never a hardcore fan of trance music like some of you guys but i certainly did have love.

In 2004 i had a 40 gig drive full of outstanding songs. It was a massive effort because i would come here and essentially download almost every track which was recommended. The last time i did this was about 2005 and it got to the point that for every 100 songs i downloaded, they were all fucking shite apart from 1-2.

Hmm whats a few examples i used to love:

Binary Finary 98, some of PVD, some of Tiesto (Traffic), then theres a bunch of random tunes which i really enjoyed as well such as Push Universal nation etc etc and im mortified that i no longer have all the tunes i used to love.

I spent a couple of hours this morning hitting posts here and it turns out that i feel like i dont fit in any more. Some of the stuff you guys listen to is fucking garbage these days. I get the impression some of you are here purely to grip a strong hold of ANYTHING trance related no matter how shit just for the sake of being a trance fan.

So what it comes down to, is i want those beats again, the quality stuff which builds up and contains quality samples. Not something with "bleeps" and "clicks" or some nonce who descides to remix a coldplay song.

In other words, when people say "what music do you like" yesterday id have said trance but today im embarrased to say this.

I take it that 96-03 was the golden age of trance and after this creativity just died across the board?

Re: So what happened to trance then?

This is probably one of the most beaten to death-subjects covered on this forum, but nevertheless:

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Originally posted by qwerty I take it that 96-03 was the golden age of trance and after this creativity just died across the board?

Not really. 96-99 were the years trance broke into the mainstream. Its creativity had flatlined before this. If you ask around, 95-96 was about the point in time when most oldschoolers had given up on trance, as they saw where it was headed.

I have always found it funny that so many people on this forum STILL consider 1999 to be the "golden year" for trance, because musically, it was the absolute nadir of the epic trance-blueprint. You can only stand around waiting for the biggest supersaw for so long.

cry baby? shut the fuck up

Qwerty, the deal is that most of us have gone through a phase where all we listened to was trance. Then we began trying other genres such as house, techno, etc. and tastes begin to expand. Right now trance, as you describe it, is in a slump. Their are still some movers and shakers but good tracks are fairly hard to come by.

One track i really like is "Estiva - Les Fleurs" but I mostly listen to house and techno. For a while BPM was a big deal for me but now I listen to all kinds of stuff.

It's spelled 'qwertz' you loser!

msz go suck a dick you ****.

Yeah i didnt know if it was just me or just the fact that is the genuine truth. That is why i posted. Theres no point in me poncing around trying to find decent beats if none actually exist.

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Originally posted by Meat187 It's spelled 'qwertz' you loser!

what kinda keboard do u have?

Yeah i attempted to do that as well. I thought, shit theres no good beats any more and by that time my mates were raving about house... for me not the same thing or even closely related to the tingling feelin a sick trance tune executed well would provide.

Yeah qwerty

You have a mad keyboard, i take it when you type yaught you get "zaught".

This aint even my account, i lost my password but username qwerty password qwerty is a classic.

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Originally posted by palm what kinda keboard do u have?

Stupid question, a qwertz-keyboard of course!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ

I wonder why bother?

Im confused why someone at some point went, "look yeah im from Switz/Germ so i want my Y to be a Z and my Z to be a Y, it makes all the difference".

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Not really. 96-99 were the years trance broke into the mainstream. Its creativity had flatlined before this. If you ask around, 95-96 was about the point in time when most oldschoolers had given up on trance, as they saw where it was headed.

The old-schoolers may have given up on it, but I personally think 1996-1997 were the best years for trance. You had a few tracks like Children and Seven Days And One Week in the charts, but they sounded almost nothing like what was happening in progressive and goa trance in those years.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J The old-schoolers may have given up on it, but I personally think 1996-1997 were the best years for trance. You had a few tracks like Children and Seven Days And One Week in the charts, but they sounded almost nothing like what was happening in progressive and goa trance in those years.

By all means, I'm not one of the oldschoolers who gave up on it either. My favourite kind of trance remains the darker progressive-ish stuff that came out around 98-00, such as this one, this one or this one.

I guess saying that the creativity "flatlined" in 96 is a bit harsh, but nevertheless, the lack of creativity in trance that seems to be the common consensus around here now set in long before 2003.

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Originally posted by qwerty Hmm whats a few examples i used to love: Traffic

You don't have my sympathy.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper I guess saying that the creativity "flatlined" in 96 is a bit harsh, but nevertheless, the lack of creativity in trance that seems to be the common consensus around here now set in long before 2003.

I'd definitely agree, but my point is that the old schoolers who say trance had died by 1995 are, in many ways, just as blinkered as the epic trance fans who say it peaked in 1999. You just have to look at that Sasha tracklist in the other thread to see there was an adundance of truly fantastic trance even after Robert Miles.

Yeah man you hit the nail on the head with those tunes. This is what i mean, they seem to have substance. I rarely ever find similar tunes to them these days.

Id just like to know why break a good thing.

PS the oldskoolers can suck my balls, I was an old skool gamer with an Atari but i cant say games were actually good until the Amiga generation.

In my opinion, 2004 was the beginning of the end.

Before that there we loads of cool trance coming out.

Then again i started listening to it in 98/99 so.

So... Sorry to be an arse,

But reading between the lines here, Trance is dead? Atleast trance in its best form is dead? I just dont see how all of a sudden people forgot how to make trance music well.

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Originally posted by qwerty Id just like to know why break a good thing.

Personally, I believe that the whole idea of clubbing radically changed after dance music spent some time in the mainstream. The relentless hedonism of 90s clubbing was never a concept that could be embraced fully by a mainstream audience, and the ones who had already embraced it eventually got old and/or burnt out.

Thus, the music started changing to reflect this (i.e. techno's move towards minimalism, trance's tendency to hover around the mid-130 BPM-mark, DJs being perceived as rock stars and so on).

If you liked Binary Finary 98, PVD, some of Tiesto (Traffic) and shit like that then there's a ton of stuff out there that you should like. You listen to 2 hours of who knows once after being out of the scene for a few years and declare trance dead, lol

Actually its not like that at all.

I didnt just stop listening to music and then decide id try it again. I have tried to actively seek out tunes during the past 3 years and im incredibly limited.

You get things like Dave Pearce trance 2008 and i have to say i liked alot of tunes on that but again all that is doing is putting old songs onto a CD and calling it a new 2008 compilation.

Almost anything with vocals is a mugs game, and if it aint got vocals it seems to be cheese.

Rarely a fan of the prodigy, i cant believe the best tune i have heard for atleast a year is "invaders must die" and as far as im concered, that is me literally scraping the edges of the bowl.

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Originally posted by qwerty Almost anything with vocals is a mugs game, and if it aint got vocals it seems to be cheese.

wat?

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Originally posted by Neo95gt wat?

He means that stuff like this is rotten garbage. DO U GET IT?

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Originally posted by RebeL9 He means that stuff like this is rotten garbage. DO U GET IT?

In your opinion maybe. Usually cheese is referred to vocal stuff that, not the other way around like he said.

My definition of cheese is stuff that embarasses me.

Scooter = cheese

A tune with lyrics might not be cheese but as soon as the lyrics start, then thats me, i go red with shame.


RebeL9 has posted the perfect evidence of what makes me cringe.


Its not a case of opinion, like i say if your into that kinda stuff then your a mug or a child. End of.

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