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Posted by ivofivo on Apr-24-2009 15:42:

Mac vs PC

Hey guys,

I am planning on getting a Mac Book Pro and Logic 8. Do you guys think its a good choice for a Trance Production DAW and computer? Should I get PC? I heard heard that Macs are good for music. Is that true??


Posted by Zak McKracken on Apr-24-2009 15:46:

Mac is fine.


Posted by cryophonik on Apr-24-2009 15:57:

Macs are great. PCs are great. Logic is great (from what I hear). Cubase is great. Sonar is great. ProTools is great. Making music with any of them is great. Marketing hype is great.







While that may sound somewhat sarcastic, the reality is that they're all just tools. If you've never used a Mac or Logic, I'd suggest trying to get your hands on them to see how they feel to you before spending that kind of cash, but I doubt you'll be disappointed (even though I'm a PC user).


Posted by mzvirbulis on Apr-24-2009 16:12:

tbh its just a load of crap to my eyes, a computer is a computer as cryophonik said!
What i really believe is how well u tune your OS to make it respond the way you want it 2. Macs use Intel now, so run on the same cpu architecture as PC's from all i can think why macs are preffered over pc etc is it's operating system thats all.

I bought i dell studio 17 laptop as of late, it ok have to do a bit of tunning for vista and my motu doesnt like the firewire chip set so i know need to bypass it with a pc card express adapter with a TI Chip set firewire port.

In the end you need to way up what suits you and how it can get the job done for you.


Posted by Numb on Apr-24-2009 18:04:

Mac vs pc threads suck. That being said I have 9 computers. 6 Macs and 3 PC's, guess which I like better.

To answer your question, yes that will work just fine. I think you should be looking at what OS/DAW you like to work in. They both can get the job done.


Posted by alanzo on Apr-24-2009 18:30:

What about Linux?!? Your DAW software is all free on Linux!


Posted by Storyteller on Apr-24-2009 18:46:

I feel the need for a sarcastic rant. This is just getting too much.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Apr-24-2009 21:57:

While u will have problems running OSX on a PC u can very well run XP on a Mac so if ur buying a mac you sort of cant really loose.


Posted by DJ RANN on Apr-24-2009 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
What about Linux?!? Your DAW software is all free on Linux!


Don't fucking start

(P.s. Mac ftw)


Posted by Raphie on Apr-24-2009 22:27:

not another MAC v/s Windows v/s Linux.......


Posted by owien on Apr-24-2009 22:28:

oh no its a pc v mac thread let the debate begin


Posted by RichieV on Apr-24-2009 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
While u will have problems running OSX on a PC u can very well run XP on a Mac so if ur buying a mac you sort of cant really loose.


i have trouble running xp ( driver issues with certain hardware) on a mac so that isn't quite accurate.

Despite the fact that i own a mac and prefer a mac, i think a pc is a great choice for anyone starting out in that they are quite cheap.

But the question is about whether a mac book is good enough and the answer is yes.


Posted by CReddick on Apr-24-2009 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by owien
oh no its a pc v mac thread let the debate begin


Yeah, we haven't had one of these in like 4 days. i was starting to miss it.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-24-2009 23:38:

You can get higher bit-depth on a PC than you can a Mac and most of the high resolution PCIe soundcards only work in PC's anyway.


Posted by RichieV on Apr-24-2009 23:47:

most highend sound cards tend to support mac before pc. Lynx and Rme both have pcie sound cards that work both on pc and mac. As far as the bit depth comment, i'm assuming you are being funny so i won't reply to that.

pc does have the advantage of the old pci slots which allows many more choices concerning soundcards that often are alot cheaper. Despite alot of fuss concerning firewire , which i think most of it is focused around pc , i haven't had a bad experience.

Like i said before, i use a mac but would never recommend one for someone starting out.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-24-2009 23:52:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
most highend sound cards tend to support mac before pc. Lynx and Rme both have pcie sound cards that work both on pc and mac. As far as the bit depth comment, i'm assuming you are being funny so i won't reply to that.

pc does have the advantage of the old pci slots which allows many more choices concerning soundcards that often are alot cheaper. Despite alot of fuss concerning firewire , which i think most of it is focused around pc , i haven't had a bad experience.

Like i said before, i use a mac but would never recommend one for someone starting out.


heheheheh...

Then why are the called PCi cards?













(The whole of it was just me being funny - I've been looking at macs just as hard as PC's (my current setup) and still haven't ruled out the RME line, even though I'm also liking Apogee cards and boxes if I decide to go Mac.)


Posted by RichieV on Apr-25-2009 01:17:

i would honestly wait a few months till osx snow leopard comes out for mac and windows 7 becomes more universal.

Buying a computer at a time of pivotal change is risky. PC has advantages over things you would think would be completely owned by Mac. For example, all adobe products are 64 bit for pc but not for mac. Cubase is only 64 bit for pc. I don't think there is actually a single app that is 64 bit for osx. There are some work around apps like esx24 and Vienna Ensemble that allow the access to the 32 gb limit but things are still a little weird.

you really have to know what you want because pc and mac can be the ideal solution but it really depends on what you actually are looking for.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-25-2009 01:23:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
i would honestly wait a few months till osx snow leopard comes out for mac and windows 7 becomes more universal.

Buying a computer at a time of pivotal change is risky. PC has advantages over things you would think would be completely owned by Mac. For example, all adobe products are 64 bit for pc but not for mac. Cubase is only 64 bit for pc. I don't think there is actually a single app that is 64 bit for osx. There are some work around apps like esx24 and Vienna Ensemble that allow the access to the 32 gb limit but things are still a little weird.

you really have to know what you want because pc and mac can be the ideal solution but it really depends on what you actually are looking for.


You and I are in complete agreement on all points. It will probably take that long, anyway. Currently, the needle is favoring PC, but I'm not that close to a purchase date and I think the system I'm using, currently, probably still has one more major (as in epic) project on it.

There are definite perceivable advantages to waiting for the 'tock' on the other side of technology 'ticks' where I'm concerned.


Posted by Numb on Apr-25-2009 17:30:

I've thought about this long and hard, had years of hands on experience, One is kinda ugly, the other looks awesome. One moves really slow, the other is really fast. One eats more than the other but one is cheeper to feed. So after years of thought and rigorous testing, I've made my decision. I'm getting a turtle.


Posted by cronodevir on Apr-25-2009 17:35:

Is using Logic enough justification for getting a high end sound card on Mac, instead of waiting 4-5 months and getting it on windows?


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-09-2009 10:52:

can someone recomend me a good mediaplayer for mac? itunes fucking sucks for other than full albums. ive tried realplayer but it doenst work with my soundcard (!), quicktime is waste, VLC has a terrible volumecontrol (300% at max destroying everything) and interface. what else is there?


Posted by DJ RANN on May-09-2009 17:16:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
can someone recomend me a good mediaplayer for mac? itunes fucking sucks for other than full albums. ive tried realplayer but it doenst work with my soundcard (!), quicktime is waste, VLC has a terrible volumecontrol (300% at max destroying everything) and interface. what else is there?


Why is quicktime no good? You need to the codecs for it but I've found it to be flawless for every file type I've tried.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-09-2009 17:40:

well playlists etc


Posted by Stef on May-10-2009 04:25:

Having a mac gets all the girls...true story.


Posted by echosystm on May-10-2009 04:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Stef
Having a mac gets all the gays, drinking Italian coffee and wearing berets...true story.


fixed


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