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Posted by DJ_Lord on Jun-17-2002 01:40:

Numark TT's + Numakr Mixer DM1001X for 700?

what do you guys think? should i buy it? this package also comes with 2 lil speakers and 1 fones which suck tho..
but i have a problem here, im goin to ny pretty soon..and i could look for shit over there too, altho ive been askin ppl that has more knowledge about this stuff more than i do.. and they told me i shouldnt buy this , that i should get techs or better, that if im gonna buy tt's i should buy something very good.
what do you guys think? should i buy this package or not? im gonna start off with this.. do u guys think this is ok? or not to good, or it SUCKS and you shouldnt get it? hehe thanks!!


Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-17-2002 02:07:

I assume you mean this:


I wouldn't. First off, if you are moving, why not wait till you move, so you don't have to haul your turntables around? it will be a pain in the ass.

Second, i would not buy numark tables. get techs. there is nothing better. mixers, needles, and everything else is negotiable, but technics are what you need to DJ with.

even so, i am thinking of buying one of the new Numark decks the TTX1, just out of curiosities sake.


Posted by Alccode on Jun-17-2002 02:10:

Dunno Up to you

Well different people will tell you different things but in the end it's up to you. Here are the two sides to the story:

First of all, there are two routes you could go in buying turntables. The first is to get tech's. The second is to get non-tech's. Most people will tell you straight out to get tech's. I wouldn't agree so quickly with that - it really depends on how serious you want to DJ. If you just want to spin in your bedroom or something then you could just start out with those Numarks. Which Numarks are you talking about, though? I have the TT-100's and I find them to be perfectly ok. They hold their pitch well, startup is fine and torque is satisfactory.

If you really want to get serious though, you might as well save up for Technics straight out.

But let me tell you, I'm serious about my hobby, and if I wanted to get tech's right away I would have had to save up for another year. But by getting other decks (the Numarks) earlier, I have more time to enjoy spinning. The tradeoff is that if I eventually want to upgrade to Technics, I'll have to go through the hassle of saving up money all over again. By then I'll have a decent job though, hehe.

Anyway as for the mixer I'm unfamiliar with it. Here's a pic I found:

http://www.zzounds.com/g/l/NUMDM1001X.jpg

Hopefully someone can speak up that's familiar with this mixer.

Oh and if you're moving to NY check first with some residents to see if the deal you're suggesting can be matched (or beaten) in NY. Hopefully someone New Yorkers will respond.

EDIT: And factor in the cost of transporting all your equipment to NY if you decide to get it before you move out. Also consider the risks of breakage etc.


Posted by DJ_Lord on Jun-17-2002 02:55:

JohnSmith: Yea! thats the one!
but im not sure if u wanna get serious with this yet, if im good at it maybe yes but if not im just gonna spin at my room.. knwo what i mean?
is there ANY way to break or spoil or mess up a turntable? cuz i dont know shit about how to use it or anything so..im afraid that if i get techs i might fuck em al up know what i mean??


Posted by Alccode on Jun-17-2002 03:21:

Nah turntables are very solid devices, *especially* Technics.
"They're built like tanks" is the popular catchphrase here. Unless you do something drastic like drop them from your window, lol!!

Anyway I guess the only real thing you can screw up are your needles, but those are easily replaced and most people mess up their first pair anyway. The pitch slider is another possibility but again, those are easily replaced.

So nah, I wouldn't worry much about it. For your concern that you might "fuck up" your Technics, don't worry, that will be hard to do.


Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-17-2002 05:07:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
JohnSmith: Yea! thats the one!
but im not sure if u wanna get serious with this yet, if im good at it maybe yes but if not im just gonna spin at my room.. knwo what i mean?
is there ANY way to break or spoil or mess up a turntable? cuz i dont know shit about how to use it or anything so..im afraid that if i get techs i might fuck em al up know what i mean??


well, like he said, you can't mess up a tech, or it's very difficult without explosives anyway. those numarks.. i'm not so sure of. but in any case they are nowhere near as good as technics.

yes technics are more money, but they are worth it. I have wanted to DJ for about 3 years now. I saved and saved, and finally, i got my techs. i got them because i knew they would last, and i know that is what they have at every rave, and what every self respecting DJ uses. I didn't want second rate tables. i was only satisfied with the best.

now, I wasn't sure i wanted to do this seriously either. but here is something that you may not have considered.

IF you decide DJing is not for you, you can always sell your technics. they have awesome resale value. i have frequently seen them go on ebay for more than what they are worth brand new!

go on ebay and watch some auctions for stanton, numark, and gemini tables, they get nowhere near as high.

now, if you get crappy decks, good luck trying to sell them. everybody wants to get techs, so they won't want your numarks. you might be able to sell them, but will probably take a big loss.

so if you don't want to be serious about it then techs are better, cause you can get all your money back, and maybe more.

on the other hand if you DO want to be serious, and you have second rate decks, you WILL want techs in a short while. you will have to save up all over again and get them, hopefully you'll be able to sell your numarks if this happens, but you might not.

and if you are serious about DJing, and you do get techs, then you can be satisfied you have the best, and go happily buying vinyl.

i wish you the best mate. you'll never know until you try though.


Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-17-2002 05:45:

OK, I decided to help you out a bit more.

i looked around on ebay and at a well known online retailer.

technics 1200SL MK2 for $379 a damn good deal http://www.pssl.com/bitemdetail.tpl...002061621592330

so, that's 2 for $758

contrast that with this auction on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=1359529537

the same thing, is already up to $760, 2 bucks more than what you would pay for them brand new. there is a little under 2 days left, i wouldn't be surprised to see this auction get up to $1000 in that time.

then, you have your numark package which is $700, for the 2 tables, mixer, speakers and mic. the speakers and mic are shit, you don't need them anyway. the mixer is ok, but you'd want to get a new one soon.

http://www.pssl.com/bitemdetail.tpl...002061621592330

here is the same thing on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&item=885110960

it's at $495 right now, 16 hours left.

no bids yet, compared to the technics auction with 13 bids already.

whew that took a long time!

I hope i have convinced you and anyone else to get technics. you won't be sorry.


Posted by DJ_Lord on Jun-17-2002 16:07:

hey john thanks man! really!!
im gonna have to save up a lil more now!


Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-17-2002 16:46:

Thank GOD! i convinced you! you will love your technics, i promise.
they are so worth it.

I was so hoping you would come back and read that, it took me a few hours to write, especially when i accidentally clicked a link and lost all of the second message by accident and had to type it all in again.

BTW, notice the numark package on ebay, only 5 hours left and no bids still.


Posted by DJTJ on Jun-17-2002 23:50:

Re: Up to you

quote:
Originally posted by Alccode
Anyway as for the mixer I'm unfamiliar with it. Here's a pic I found:

http://www.zzounds.com/g/l/NUMDM1001X.jpg

Hopefully someone can speak up that's familiar with this mixer.

That would be me then

I have this mixer, and for someone just starting out like yourself you could do a lot worse. It has all the features you need: 3 band eq, crossfader curve adjustment, gains, switchable phono/line inputs etc. The drawback of it is that its a cheap mixer, and as such won't last that long. I've had mine since about October and the crossfader is already bleeding, and I use the line faders for mixing! But seriously, for it's price you wont find anything better. If you want better quality stuff you have to pay for it.



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