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Posted by limin_li on Apr-25-2009 08:42:

Which Software Is Great Working With VST or VSTI Plugins?

I've going back and forth about which software I should use for production. I currently have Reason 4.0 but Reason does not like any VST plug ins period only things like "Refills" So I am in market to get either Pro Tools or Ableton Live. My question is that does Pro Tools can enable various of VST Plug ins?


Thanks aheads


Posted by 4everX on Apr-25-2009 08:50:

protools does not support VST protocol but the RTAS one, but you can use the ''wrapper FXPANSION VST TO RTAS''
this program converts your VST plug-in to RTAS protocol
but i'm not sure at all, i don't use Protools or any other host with RTAS

EDIT: i find this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsGoapdOlck


Posted by 9Vibes on Apr-25-2009 09:50:

Ableton Live , Fruity Loops are great IMO.


Posted by wing on Apr-25-2009 11:20:

you could check out cubase 5


Posted by limin_li on Apr-25-2009 17:20:

ohh yeah I forgot to tell everyone that I use macbook pro.


Posted by [Alpha]Dave on Apr-25-2009 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by hundred
you could check out cubase 5


+1

I've just bought Cubase 5, and I'm lovin it. I've been stuck with the SX 3 version for quite some time. I'm really happy with the upgrade and I strongly recommend it! LOVE all the new functions/effects/synths etc.


Posted by DJ RANN on Apr-25-2009 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by limin_li
ohh yeah I forgot to tell everyone that I use macbook pro.


Dude, not to be rude, but if you don't know that protools doesn't use VSTs, then I feel it's a sign that you need to do more research before spending a money on a sequencer, especially as pro tools works out rather expensive for even a basic setup.

If you're running a macbook, then go for logic pro. Ableton is fine too and so is cubase but having used all of them I'm most happy with Logic Pro - it comes with great synths and fx, and 8 is the best version of it yet - it just works so well.

Now, granted it does have a steeper learning curve that fruity loops, and maybe a tiny bit more than cubase (but that's highly debatable) but once you get in to it nothing else compares IMHO.

You can also pick up logic express for $199 or studio (all bells and whistles) for $499 - real bargains for what you get.


Posted by atxbigballer1 on Apr-26-2009 04:22:

Protools sucks cocks in hell!
Protools was my 1st DAW but Reaper is my last!
www.reaper.fm


Posted by RichieV on Apr-26-2009 04:30:

astonishing program given how it is made by one guy and if you really want to be a greedy prick, free


Makes you wonder why all the other programs are not light years ahead of what reaper does.


Posted by Eldritch on Apr-26-2009 06:22:

Your best bet is either Logic or Cubase.
Ableton has a very different interface and workflow (In a bad way if you ask me) and ProTools just sucks for EDM.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Apr-26-2009 13:15:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
astonishing program given how it is made by one guy and if you really want to be a greedy prick, free


Makes you wonder why all the other programs are not light years ahead of what reaper does.

while reaper is really good i miss better included instruments and samples. u must have alot of vsts and samples yourself but i like daws that has alot to begin with. reaper seems to be perfect for recording etc though.


Posted by BOOsTER on Apr-26-2009 14:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Eldritch

Ableton has a very different interface and workflow (In a bad way if you ask me).


oh what's so bad about being different? Not all programmers are sheeps following the same trends...
If you ask me I <3 ableton!


Posted by RichieV on Apr-26-2009 14:20:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
while reaper is really good i miss better included instruments and samples. u must have alot of vsts and samples yourself but i like daws that has alot to begin with. reaper seems to be perfect for recording etc though.


agreed. There are still a few things missing but considering which would probably be a deal breaker for people dealing in EDM ( midi automation needs some work ) it is a fantastic program that really does almost everything better than alot of the major DAWs.

I own it but it was really a support buy because of the type of work i do, i just don't use it. I have tested it tho and i was extremely impressed not only by how unbloated it is , but it is constantly updated. To think that cubase users for mac have been waiting years for a 64 bit version. You are right in that for recording, it is really becoming popular. I hope it does well because with a name change and a few upgrades, i am certain it would give every DAW a run for its money.

the name tho. they really need to change it. I think sometimes Europeans don't understand that somethings just don't sound that cool.


Posted by cronodevir on Apr-26-2009 17:38:

FLStudio 8


Posted by limin_li on Apr-26-2009 20:17:

This is what happened when people skim through the page and does not read...... See above tsk tsk tsk


Posted by [Alpha]Dave on Apr-26-2009 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by limin_li
This is what happened when people skim through the page and does not read...... See above tsk tsk tsk

I personally wouldn't choose either of your choices (Ableton or Pro Tools). Pro Tools is more suitable for recording music (instruments) etc. Sure it would probably go fine for EDM production as well, but if you're mainly focused on producing within the computer there is bmore practical choices such as Logic, Cubase, FL and Ableton (as you mentioned) but I personally wouldn't choose Ableton myself though. But that's a matter of taste mainly since I prefer the "standard" layout of the programs such as cubase and logic while Ableton isn't my cup of tea in the layout. But if your gonna choose between Ableton and Pro Tools, I'd say go Ableton. I myself is a real Cubase fan though.


Posted by limin_li on Apr-26-2009 21:25:

good deal,

this is bit of off topic. How do you know Marylanders call Baltimore bmore? I maybe ignorant but I hardly see other people from other country call it bmore or even know what bmore is...


Posted by limin_li on Apr-26-2009 21:26:

wait, I take that back. I think you mistype more to bmore.


Posted by DJ RANN on Apr-26-2009 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by limin_li
This is what happened when people skim through the page and does not read...... See above tsk tsk tsk


Happening a lot at the moment. A lot of people seem to be just reading the last post and then typing the first thing that comes to mind. It's like they're trying to get their post count up or something?

Never used reaper but it looks a lot like acid pro in it's design.

I forgot to mention I love the stability of logic - honestly I've had a it crash once on me and even then I realised it was my fault. Cubase on a mac was always flakey, but heard good things about the last update of cubase 4 on mac being stable. Don't know about cubase 5 on mac as everyone I know that has it is on a PC.


Posted by cronodevir on Apr-26-2009 22:14:

I read the first post and replied. You have issues with that? FL has already mentioned, I guess that mean a lot of people support it if its mentioned many times.


Posted by DJ RANN on Apr-27-2009 20:45:

Yes actually, as we don't have mods and to avoid further pollution of this forum, please keep thought like these to yourself.

If you'd bothered reading the the thread, you know how useless your post was.

Here, I'll save you some time:

quote:
Originally posted by limin_li
....I use macbook pro.


So unless he wants to run bootcamp and then FL inside windows on that (which for so many reasons is a not the best idea, especially when there are so many other thoughtful reasons in this thread to use one of the other sequencers), that suggestion is quite truly useless, but again you'd know that if you read the thread (or even past the first post).

Try reading the threads fully (and you own responses) before you post.

Chrono - I'm honestly trying to help you - if you haven't noticed, several threads on here in past few weeks have turned in to running jokes about some of your "contributions" on here, and I think in some cases it's becuase you just either read the most recent or first post then just say your response out loud.


Posted by cronodevir on Apr-27-2009 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Yes actually, as we don't have mods and to avoid further pollution of this forum, please keep thought like these to yourself.

If you'd bothered reading the the thread, you know how useless your post was.

Here, I'll save you some time:



So unless he wants to run bootcamp and then FL inside windows on that (which for so many reasons is a not the best idea, especially when there are so many other thoughtful reasons in this thread to use one of the other sequencers), that suggestion is quite truly useless, but again you'd know that if you read the thread (or even past the first post).

Try reading the threads fully (and you own responses) before you post.

Chrono - I'm honestly trying to help you - if you haven't noticed, several threads on here in past few weeks have turned in to running jokes about some of your "contributions" on here, and I think in some cases it's becuase you just either read the most recent or first post then just say your response out loud.


Trust me I don't need any help. I'm quite aware of what is going on.


Posted by RichieV on Apr-28-2009 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Happening a lot at the moment. A lot of people seem to be just reading the last post and then typing the first thing that comes to mind. It's like they're trying to get their post count up or something?

Never used reaper but it looks a lot like acid pro in it's design.

I forgot to mention I love the stability of logic - honestly I've had a it crash once on me and even then I realised it was my fault. Cubase on a mac was always flakey, but heard good things about the last update of cubase 4 on mac being stable. Don't know about cubase 5 on mac as everyone I know that has it is on a PC.


hey don't blame me ! i'm not the one that brought reaper up. I only replied once the thread had already been diverted.


Posted by RichieV on Apr-28-2009 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
Trust me I don't need any help. I'm quite aware of what is going on.


i believe that you think you know what is going on. I think you know what your name is. I think you are aware of the day. That is about as far as i will go in assuming what you think you know.


Posted by cronodevir on Apr-28-2009 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
i believe that you think you know what is going on. I think you know what your name is. I think you are aware of the day. That is about as far as i will go in assuming what you think you know.


Hush Boy, Its not meal time yet.


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