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*swine Virus* "28 Days Later" type shit.....
Not really that intense, by a long shot. But I am wondering if by some odd chance this shit turns really fucking bad what would a scenerio be for the now debate for the wall across our southern border. How would an American city respond to its own outbreak of this size?? crazy real world scenarios anyone??
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MEXICO CITY (Map, News) - A deadly new swine flu strain that has killed at least 20 people in Mexico City and sickened more than 1,000 has "pandemic potential," the World Health Organization chief said Saturday - but some fear it may be too late to contain the outbreak. With 24 new suspected cases of the swine flu reported Saturday, Mexico City said schools would remain closed and all public events suspended until further notice - including more than 500 concerts, sporting events and other gatherings including the popular weekly bicycle rides on streets closed to traffic. A hotline set up the previous day fielded 2,366 calls from frightened city residents who suspected they might have the disease. City Health Secretary Armando Ahued said 10 new possible cases of infection have been discovered in the metropolis of 20 million people. Officials say more than 1,000 people have been infected nationwide. Tests show 20 people have died of the swine flu, and 48 other deaths were probably due to the same strain. This virus is a mix of human, pig and bird strains that has epidemiologists around the world deeply concerned. The World Health Organization convened in Geneva Saturday to consider whether to declare an international public health emergency - a step that could lead to travel advisories, trade restrictions and border closures. The agency's director-general, Margaret Chan, said the outbreak involves "an animal strain of the H1N1 virus, and it has pandemic potential" - but it is too early to say whether a pandemic will actually occur. The CDC and Canadian health officials were studying samples sent from Mexico, and some governments in Asia and Latin America began monitoring passengers arriving on flights from Mexico. But it may be too late to contain the outbreak, given how widespread the known cases are. If the confirmed deaths are the first signs of a pandemic, then cases are probably incubating around the world by now, said Dr. Michael Osterholm, a pandemic flu expert at the University of Minnesota. The same virus also sickened at least eight people in Texas and California, though there have been no deaths north of the border, puzzling experts at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. No vaccine specifically protects against swine flu, and it is unclear how much protection current human flu vaccines might offer. http://www.examiner.com/a-1980741~M..._fight_flu.html |
its global
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| 81 dead in Mexico as flu emergency goes global Story Highlights 81 deaths in Mexico "likely linked" to swine flu; ministry given emergency powers New Zealand quarantines 22 students, 3 teachers with swine flu symptoms Officials urge Mexicans to avoid large crowds, kissing in greeting WHO says swine flu virus is "public health emergency of international concern" (CNN) -- Mexican officials are asking citizens to avoid large crowds, refrain from kissing as a greeting and maintain a distance of at least 1.8 meters (six feet) from each other amid growing concern in the country and elsewhere over new cases of suspected and confirmed swine flu infection. Several countries issued travel notices and tightened restrictions to brace against the virus the World Health Organization is calling "a public health emergency of international concern." By Sunday, 81 deaths had been deemed "likely linked" to a deadly new strain of the virus by health authorities in Mexico. Viral testing has confirmed 20 cases, said Dr. Jose A. Cordova Villalobos, Mexico's health secretary. In the United States, the number of confirmed swine flu cases stood at 11. In New Zealand, officials said 22 students and three teachers, who returned from a three-week-long language trip to Mexico, may have been infected with the virus. The 25 students and teachers at Auckland's Rangitoto College returned to New Zealand via Los Angeles on Saturday. Fourteen have shown flu-like symptoms, with four "more unwell than others," said Dr. Julia Peters, clinical director of Auckland Regional Public Health Service. Health Minister Tony Ryall said 10 students tested positive for influenza A. The specimens will be sent to WHO to determine whether it is H1N1 swine influenza. H1N1 influenza is a subset of influenza A. The WHO results are expected back by midweek. The group remains quarantined at home. "It's certainly has not been confirmed that they have swine flu," said Dr. Craig Thornley, medical officer of health in influenza. "We already have provisional information that some of the group have influenza A. We won't know if they have the type of influenza A that is swine flu." In England, authorities stressed that a crew member who developed flu-like symptoms during a flight from Mexico City to Heathrow did not test positive for swine flu. "I can confirm that the patient doesn't have swine flu," said Jonathan Street, a spokesman for Northwick Park Hospital in London. "We have done all test, and they all came back negative." In Israel, doctors are running tests on a man who recently returned from Mexico with light flu symptoms. U.S. health officials said Friday that some cases of the virus in the United States matched samples of the deadly Mexican virus. All the patients have recovered or are expected to. The panic over the virus prompted Canada to issue a travel health notice, saying the public health agency was "tracking clusters of severe respiratory illness with deaths in Mexico." Watch CBC report on Canadian microbiologists' concerns � South Korea said it will test airline passengers arriving from the United States. And Japan will convene a Cabinet meeting Monday to come up with measures to block the entry of the virus into the country. The United States had not issued any travel warnings or quarantines. But US Airways said Saturday night it would allow passengers to change plans if they wanted to because of the outbreak. Airline spokeswoman Michelle Mohr said it was not asking people not to travel to Mexico, but wanted to "give them that flexibility" if "they don't feel comfortable." Gregory Hartl, of the World Health Organization, said the strain of the virus seen in Mexico is worrisome because it has mutated from older strains.Watch how public health officials grade phases of pandemic alerts � "Any time that there is a virus which changes ... it means perhaps the immunities the human body has built up to dealing with influenza might not be adjusted well enough to dealing with this new virus," Hartl said. He said that, in Mexico, otherwise young, healthy people have been hit by the virus -- "one of the pieces of the puzzle that is worrying us," he said. Mexico City has closed all of its schools and universities until further notice because of the virus. Watch efforts in Mexico to prevent spread of the virus � More than 1,300 people with flu-like symptoms have been admitted to hospitals in Mexico, and officials are trying to determine how many of them have swine flu, said Jose Cordova Villalobos, the country's health minister. The H1N1 strain of swine flu is usually associated with pigs. When the flu spreads person-to-person, instead of from animals to humans, it can continue to mutate, making it a tougher strain that is harder to treat or fight off. Symptoms of swine flu include fever, lethargy, lack of appetite, coughing, runny nose, sore throat, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea, the CDC said.Learn more about swine flu and how to treat it � President Barack Obama, who visited Mexico last week en route to the Summit of the Americas in Trinidad and Tobago, is not sick. "The president's trip to Mexico has not put his health in any danger," spokesman Robert Gibbs said. CNN's Saeed Ahmed and Raja Razek contributed to this report. All AboutMexico � Influenza � Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Find this article at: http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/2....flu/index.html |
Scary times indeed. When I was living in Toronto, there was the whole SARS thing which caught everyone quite offguard and the public reacted as the public usually does - in a slightly irrational manner.
Hopefully civil authorities are a little more well-prepared (especially in this "post 9/11 world *barf*" where there has been the looming scenario of a chemical or biological attack.
Personally though, I'm not too concerned with it living over here, but if I was anywhere near the Mexican border I would certainly be more guarded about things.
A little off topic perhaps, but I just finished reading a book where a genetically-engineered disease ravaged the world and humanity and civilization decimated. Basically, the premise was that pharmaceutical companies were manufacturing diseases simultaneously with vaccines in order to get rich, and they deployed a disease that simply outran their vaccination capacity.
In any case, the curious genetic combination of swine+avian+human flu has me a bit puzzled, and I'd be interested in hearing from a biologist or someone who understands viruses to hear exactly how that can occur in nature...
My job deals with lots of travelers. I should probably wash my hands periodically.
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov In any case, the curious genetic combination of swine+avian+human flu has me a bit puzzled, and I'd be interested in hearing from a biologist or someone who understands viruses to hear exactly how that can occur in nature... |
typically only children and old peeps die from an influenza strain. Since I'm neither a child nor an old person, I'm not concerned.
Anyway, the media likes to hype this type of BS because of the exotic names. Every summer in NYC we have these warnings about the west nile virus. However, only 6 new yorkers died from the west nile virus in 2008, and only 46 were infected with the virus. More people die in a year from the common cold or diarrhea than the west nile virus. Imagine if the media reported how many people were infected with a normal strain of influenza, or had Pneumonia! The numbers of people infected by these two illnesses and killed as a result of having these illnesses would vastly outnumber the people with Swine-flu. The only reason these new strains get so much attention is the exotic names or origins of the diseases. The statistical probability of contracting and dying from most of these exotic diseases is usually less than the chances of catching and dying from more common diseases.
Now here's the true cynic in me: hyping these exotic diseases also gives doctors a great chance to get their names out their on major networks acting like "experts" on the talk shows. I bet PR firms (getting doctors placed on TV shows explaining the diseases) do well when new exotic diseases emerge (especially if they are the main cause of the publicity in the first place). Normal people don't need experts to tell us about the "normal" flu and other common diseases. Because we don't need to be informed about the more common diseases, I think alot of the hype is created by PR firms trying to get certain doctors airtime (for whatever personal reason the doctor may have).
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| Originally posted by jerZ07002 typically only children and old peeps die from an influenza strain. Since I'm neither a child nor an old person, I'm not concerned. |
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| Originally posted by NeoPhono "cytokine storm." |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov A little off topic perhaps, but I just finished reading a book where a genetically-engineered disease ravaged the world and humanity and civilization decimated. Basically, the premise was that pharmaceutical companies were manufacturing diseases simultaneously with vaccines in order to get rich, and they deployed a disease that simply outran their vaccination capacity. |
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| Originally posted by Moongoose Sonds like a plot to a Resident Evil game/movie. Any mention of a Umbrella corporation in there y any chance |
I'm waiting for the conspiracy whackos to turn this into...well...a conspiracy.
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| Originally posted by Krypton I'm waiting for the conspiracy whackos to turn this into...well...a conspiracy. |
So much of this media campaign going out to scare people, as usual. About 100 Mexicans dead from pig flu? How about the normal flu - the influenza - it kills THOUSANDS of Americans every year. Talk about a pandemic.
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As a result, and despite annual vaccinations, the U.S. faces a burden of influenza that results in approximately 36,000 deaths and more than 200,000 hospitalizations each year. In addition to this human toll, influenza is annually responsible for a total cost of over $10 billion in the U.S.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/homeland/...-influenza.html
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| So much of this media campaign going out to scare people, as usual. About 100 Mexicans dead from pig flu? How about the normal flu - the influenza - it kills THOUSANDS of Americans every year. Talk about a pandemic. |
Ron Paul on the Swine Flu Scare and more BIG Government
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium [COLOR=FF7F50] So much of this media campaign going out to scare people, as usual. About 100 Mexicans dead from pig flu? How about the normal flu - the influenza - it kills THOUSANDS of Americans every year. Talk about a pandemic. |
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| Originally posted by ******** inglesi http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/.../29/2555794.htm I wunder how much this cost to "react" to this armagedon spawned virus.. .for various countries such as the US and mexico... there is always that, but if they didn't... |
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| Originally posted by culorut Same thing that was posted in the Italian link I posted above, yet the western media is still fear mongering everyone into a panic. Makes you wonder.... |
plz?
Cough ,,,,, sneeeeze cough. I am on my way to Iran wish me luck!........
I just saw the best headline of all time:
"Aporkalypse Now!"
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium So much of this media campaign going out to scare people, as usual. About 100 Mexicans dead from pig flu? How about the normal flu - the influenza - it kills THOUSANDS of Americans every year. Talk about a pandemic. http://www.whitehouse.gov/homeland/...-influenza.html |
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| Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I just saw the best headline of all time: "Aporkalypse Now!" |
Well it has been at least 24 hours and the western media still have not shown any signs of slowing down with their scare tactics. They are still reporting 150 or so dead in Mexico when it is really 7?
Swine influenza - update 5 29 April 2009
The situation continues to evolve rapidly. As of 18:00 GMT, 29 April 2009, nine countries have officially reported 148 cases of swine influenza A/H1N1 infection. The United States Government has reported 91 laboratory confirmed human cases, with one death. Mexico has reported 26 confirmed human cases of infection including seven deaths.
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_04_29/en/index.html
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