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Politically Correct and Music

Do you think EDM artists should follow some sort of conditioned, formal, well mannered way of dealing with issues and people? For example John Digweed, everything you hear out of his mouth is some fairytale bs. Or should artists be themselves and deal with issues how they normally would? For example Omar S. Should an artist who is successful be politically correct at all times?

Im just thinkin, if I were ever to be successful, I guess the success would humble me enough to think twice about what I say, but I would'nt create some bs politically correct persona so that people and their moms like me.

what do you consider successfull ? I only ask because i somehow thought you allready were. I mean you do treat people like crap, but on the other hand, you seem humble since i have a hard time finding all those links to all the hits people that typically are famous tend to flaunt.

I'm really not sure now. I remember you asking a question about copyright, and it strikes me as odd not for the simple nature of the answer but i just always assumed someone with such self inflated self worth would have an assistant to deal with that.

But i suppose i am a scene noob ( i think that is how you phrased it) , and people with such little understanding of the scene, something else you said which actually is confusing me more in that for some reason, the number under your name says 2008. IS this how long you have been a member ? Quite astonishing now that i think about it. I mean to accomplish all the things you did , in less than a year. Wait, i'm lost again. What exactly have you done. I suppose it doesn't matter.

The point I'm making is that despite everything you've said and done, you should not be too hard on yourself for even tho you might be quite the asshole, the talent , that is once you actually start making songs, or mixes or flyers for events that don't exist showing said talent that is somewhat invisible right now, will override any of those other qualities that make you understandably quite revolting.

They have to be a little PC, otherwise they'll lose all their wop and chink listeners.

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Originally posted by DigiNut They have to be a little PC, otherwise they'll lose all their wop and chink listeners.

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Originally posted by DigiNut They have to be a little PC, otherwise they'll lose all their wop and chink listeners.

You mean they will loose all their white listeners. :P

White people are the man supporters of this crap PC environment we live in today. Europe is just horrible in this respect. Go to Germany for instance and say "only 5,999,999 Jews died in ww2", and you can be jailed.

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Originally posted by DigiNut They have to be a little PC, otherwise they'll lose all their wop and chink listeners.

Yah see, I don't think it matters much. For example, someone like Omar S, he could probably cuss out anyone, and tell them to fuck themselves to hell, and I doubt it would affect his career much. I don't think Political Correctness is important in Underground Music. We have no major label executive to appease, no major marketing campaign or product line to support. We can make music that we want to make, and if someone bothers us, we can say FUCK YOU in your ass. I mean there is no huge machine to stop you from your success, no forum nerd to stop a promoter from calling you up to play a gig, no website to stop you from selling good music. Since your main product is quality music, not your image towards the world. Now your personality might be of some importance, but that is if you are a DJ and thats during your live shows, and there really isnt room or a place that requires any unpolitical behaviour anyhow.

For example, Deadmau5. The dude basically said fuck DJ's lol. He's a producer, and DJ's pay his bills for the most part. Now this would be quite the case of politically incorrectness but has it really affected him? A good portion of the major forums hate on him, but is he any less successful? No. All the hate towards him is really meaningless in the grand scheme of things. His average listener does'nt even hear the small voices on forums that hate on him, so in essence most people are just wasting their time hating on him.

So what im saying is, I guess I like the fact and the beauty about EDM, and Underground Music in general, you don't have to have some BS persona where you get people to like you in order to be successful. Good music (subjective to fans) will get you heard no matter what.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 We can make music that we want to make, and if someone bothers us, we can say FUCK YOU in your ass.

By us , are you talking about you and diginut? I think diginut is the type of person that wouldn't say such a thing because he seems a tad smarter than that.

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For example, Deadmau5. The dude basically said fuck DJ's lol. He's a producer, and DJ's pay his bills for the most part. Now this would be quite the case of politically incorrectness but has it really affected him?

You aren't Deadmau5.

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So what im saying is, I guess I like the fact and the beauty about EDM, and Underground Music in general, you don't have to have some BS persona where you get people to like you in order to be successful. Good music (subjective to fans) will get you heard no matter what.

that isn't how i read it. The version i heard was that you think you are so famous that you can tell people to fuck off . You seem to think that what applies to a world class act will also apply to you. Basically you think you are like Deadmau5 minus all the hits and such, and finally , the best part about EDM, is how you can be a prick because you have good music, assuming you start writing some I'm guessing. I think most people would of put good music at the top.

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Originally posted by RichieV By us , are you talking about you and diginut? I think diginut is the type of person that wouldn't say such a thing because he seems a tad smarter than that. You aren't Deadmau5. that isn't how i read it. The version i heard was that you think you are so famous that you can tell people to fuck off . You seem to think that what applies to a world class act will also apply to you. Basically you think you are like Deadmau5 minus all the hits and such, and finally , the best part about EDM, is how you can be a prick because you have good music, assuming you start writing some I'm guessing. I think most people would of put good music at the top.

obviously

i mean i'm sure you could nab a way cuter guy being the celebrity you are.

But let's say that you weren't famous, and that i was similarly gay, would you like it if i dressed in a mouse outfit. I only ask because the second you aren't putting people down, you are talking about deadmau5.

Being serious I'm actually curious if you've ever even made a song ? Because i would love to hear it.

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Originally posted by RichieV obviously i mean i'm sure you could nab a way cuter guy being the celebrity you are. But let's say that you weren't famous, and that i was similarly gay, would you like it if i dressed in a mouse outfit. I only ask because the second you aren't putting people down, you are talking about deadmau5. I'm actually curious if you've ever even made a song ? Or is this just fun fantasy. Nothing wrong with that .

I have no idea what the fuck you are on about for virtually all your posts i've read. Delusional + Alternate Reality nutcase for sure.

weird considering you posted it a few hours ago. Is it possible that perhaps you are the one that needs some help?

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Its funny, you have no grasp of this forum,

Sort of weird how my registration year is 2003 while yours says 2008

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Its funny, you have no grasp of this industry,

What exactly is yours? Would love to hear about all the nuggests of knowledge you must of acquired in your 1 year as a trance producer. Maybe you could show me your shit so i can understand how great you really are.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Its funny, you have no grasp of the market

Well I'm pretty sure there are a million little tweakers like you ready to buy glowsticks.

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And the fact that you see $20 service as absolute scam, even though the mans equipment is probably worth more than all your belongings, it makes you come off retarded a bit

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Now you are saying his equipment(3/4 of which i'm pretty sure you are never even heard of ) is so awesome, which you asssume must mean he is awesome yet you think someone with that equipment is somehow paying the rent with the wage a MacDonalds worker makes in London? And i'm the retard ?

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How do you get scammed from a mastering job? It is either good or bad, no one can steal from you, most places give you a demo upon request of their work beforehand. See how stupid your argument is? Now you learned something, you're welcome =)

how strange that someone in this very thread made a comment about getting scammed in such a way.






so in summation , you seem to think pretty damn highly of yourself, yet i am having a really really hard time finding some of your awesome work. Despite even in pm , you wont. Is it possible that these songs are not really so real ? But i don't think you would be that lame. So why not just share a link?

LoL...great now his monkey ass is pming me. What the fuck? Dude, find someone else to bug.

post a link pus5y

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Originally posted by msz post a link pus5y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H02h0nGBryU

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Originally posted by Kismet7 LoL...great now his monkey ass is pming me. What the fuck? Dude, find someone else to bug.

well i pm'd you because i figured maybe you didn't want it public. But for some reason that is not a possibility either. So no beatport link, no other link to some other label, not even a 10 second loop which i did say would satisfy my curiosity.

I guess the moral of the story here is

Actually start to make a song, before fantasying about being famous.Before you place yourself next to deadmau5, it might be a good thing to maybe at least jot some notes. Because when you act like the fucking douche bag super star you did , well i guess you made an impression and i'm so severely disappointed that what could of been some nice music is just the imagination of a little sad pathetic boy who is apparently almost 30.


good night.

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Originally posted by RichieV well i pm'd you because i figured maybe you didn't want it public. But for some reason that is not a possibility either. So no beatport link, no other link to some other label, not even a 10 second loop which i did say would satisfy my curiosity. I guess the moral of the story here is Actually start to make a song, before fantasying about being famous.Before you place yourself next to deadmau5, it might be a good thing to maybe at least jot some notes. Because when you act like the fucking douche bag super star you did , well i guess you made an impression and i'm so severely disappointed that what could of been some nice music is just the imagination of a little sad pathetic boy who is apparently almost 30. good night.

Dude, are you dense? I really could give a shit about impressing you. Get a clue. I mean half the moral of this topic is not impressing or appeasing people on internet forums, so why the fuck would I give you, someone I dont even know, a link to my music just to get some credibility from YOU? lol. Fuck. Maybe if I engaged in healthy debate with you a few times, and you were mentally ground enough, id be open to sharing music with you, but thats not the case is it?

RichieV really now. Do you just post to piss others off?

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Dude, are you dense? I really could give a shit about impressing you. Get a clue

you are right about that. I have absolutely no clue. No clue why someone would hype himself up so fucking much, put someone else done with such confidence , compare himself to Deadmau5, talk about being famous yet not be in a position to post one example of doing anything creative.

did your dog eat it?
Is your computer broken?
Surely it isn't the fact that it might suck since i did say pm is an option. How long are you going to keep this fucking charade up. You are 28. How do you expect a sane person to have a clue why someone would invent such a pathetic narrative. I dont even understand how you gain from it. Are there secret trance points i don't know about ? Do you feel left out? You are so fucking right about me not having a clue.

Can anyone give him a song. I feel awfull now. If someone was to pm you a link to a song that you could own and have as your very own song , is that something you might be into?

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Originally posted by RichieV you are right about that. I have absolutely no clue. No clue why someone would hype himself up so fucking much, put someone else done with such confidence , compare himself to Deadmau5, talk about being famous yet not be in a position to post one example of doing anything creative. did your dog eat it? Is your computer broken? Surely it isn't the fact that it might suck since i did say pm is an option. How long are you going to keep this fucking charade up. You are 28. How do you expect a sane person to have a clue why someone would invent such a pathetic narrative. I dont even understand how you gain from it. Are there secret trance points i don't know about ? Do you feel left out? You are so fucking right about me not having a clue. Can anyone give him a song. I feel awfull now.

^ LOL...comedy gold. There are drunk people on a bus in NYC right now that don't know where they are headed, but could probably make sense of the OP and my reply to Diginut more than you did. Where did I compare myself to Deadmau5, I simply used him as a good example of how producers dont need to be politically correct, I also used Omar S, and could use a shit ton of Underground Hip Hop artists like Immortal Technique for one. You've surpassed echosystem by now. Take your delusions into another thread, this is a legit topic and observation of underground music.

There is something slightly ironic about a person who imagines he is a producer with imaginary songs calling people delusional. Talk about music? are you sure ? Seemed like a talk about how you are so fucking awesome.

And i was excited about it except until you sort of let the cat out of the hat that you are imagining everything. I mean you don't have to post here. I respect that. maybe in the other promotion thread. But for some reason, you are so damn prolific but the internet has this grudge and it just won't exist. This is only fun because you were acting so fucking snug.

The fucked up part is how this was all over some mastering thread, which is so fucking ironic when you think about it. Why would a person with no actual music need something mastered.

I mean is this really what is going on. I still don't believe you are actually that fucking weak. I am so conflicted.

Can you not just describe one of your songs with words? Maybe even just share the name of the song? Does it have some hihats maybe ? Maybe some basslines somewhere ? Maybe tell me about your awesome melody you have or have been workingon.

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Originally posted by RichieV There is something slightly ironic about a person who imagines he is a producer with imaginary songs calling people delusional. Talk about music? are you sure ? Seemed like a talk about how you are so fucking awesome. And i was excited about it except until you sort of let the cat out of the hat that you are imagining everything. I mean you don't have to post here. I respect that. maybe in the other promotion thread. But for some reason, you are so damn prolific but the internet has this grudge and it just won't exist. This is only fun because you were acting so fucking snug. The fucked up part is how this was all over some mastering thread, which is so fucking ironic when you think about it. Why would a person with no actual music need something mastered. I mean is this really what is going on. I still don't believe you are actually that fucking weak. I am so conflicted. Can you not just describe one of your songs with words?

basically your purpose is to gently pinch my balls, right? right? right?

You can't be serious. Delousion level is too high for this to be real.

What is ironic is that you have created your own reality of things (this seems to be an ongoing trait), and you've created your own parameters and purpose of this thread. I have to have a ton of music out and a ton of success to talk about music and the political correctness of someone that is successful in EDM? Really really? O noes, this thread is illegitmate, because RichieV sezzz so.

ps: This thread isnt entirely about me, its about underground music artists/EDM artists and their ability to be politically inncorrect (like slapping Paris Hilton) and still maintaining a successful career.

right now i would settle for 10 second loop. And if you didn't act like you were such hot shit putting people down, this would not be happening.

do you not remember saying this ? Its the same thing i posted on page 1. but i shortened it a bit, Now how is it someone that is so fucking confident can't produce anything.

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Its funny, you have no grasp of this forum, the industry, the market. So in practicality, your argument is very poor. And the fact that you see $20 service as absolute scam, even though the mans equipment is probably worth more than all your belongings, it makes you come off retarded a bit. Now you learned something, you're welcome =)

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Originally posted by RichieV right now i would settle for 10 second loop. And if you didn't act like you were such hot shit putting people down, this would not be happening.

Hmm, I dont recall putting anyone down, I do put monkeys like you down though, cause monkeys like you like to instigate people, you kinda deserve it? On the serious tip, if you can show me where I put someone innocent down, premptively without cause, i'll send you a clip lol. But since you cant, you get nothin sucka :P. What you will be easily able to find is me defending people from dumbfucks like you.

Anyhow im done, your just a troll that has nothing better to do than to bug people on a forum. Do find a life with a bit more dynamics. ;p

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Hmm, I dont recall putting anyone down, I do put monkeys like you down though, cause monkeys like you like to instigate people, you kinda deserve it? On the serious tip, if you can show me where I put someone innocent down, premptively without cause, i'll send you a clip lol. But since you cant, you get nothin sucka :P. What you will be easily able to find is me defending people from dumbfucks like you. Anyhow im done, your just a troll that has nothing better to do than to bug people on a forum. Do find a life with a bit more dynamics. ;p

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=520960

there you go

you make fun of someone's knowledge in production and you make an extremely sexist remark. and if you really think i am such a dumb fuck and compared me to a money , you insulted monkeys.

Now lets see the fucking masterpieces you've been rubbing in everyone's face

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Originally posted by RichieV http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=520960 there you go you make fun of someone's knowledge in production and you make an extremely sexist remark. and if you really think i am such a dumb fuck and compared me to a money , you insulted monkeys. Now lets see the fucking masterpieces you've been rubbing in everyone's face

Thanks for proving how delusional you are, I don't see me downing anyone in there outside of normal forum chatter. Sexist remarks? Sarcasm doesnt permeate through to delusional people I suppose. So Yah OK.

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