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Production School (metalworks)

I really want to start learning how to produce music and I found a place in Mississauga called Metalworks. I wanted to know if anyone has taken courses there or knows someone who has? Is it worth going to school to learn?

My cousin started their last September taking Audio Engineering and really likes it...

I'm not sure how it stacks up to Trebas or Harris though, but from what he's told me its a pretty good program and he's learning a lot.

However I should also point out that he's really into rock/alternative as opposed to EDM, not sure if that makes a difference from an engineering perspective though

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Originally posted by LightsOut My cousin started their last September taking Audio Engineering and really likes it... I'm not sure how it stacks up to Trebas or Harris though, but from what he's told me its a pretty good program and he's learning a lot. However I should also point out that he's really into rock/alternative as opposed to EDM, not sure if that makes a difference from an engineering perspective though

Thanks for the information. When I called them they said they teach you Ableton, ProTools, Reason, Cubase, and Logic.

Thanks again

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Originally posted by Brennen I really want to start learning how to produce music and I found a place in Mississauga called Metalworks. I wanted to know if anyone has taken courses there or knows someone who has? Is it worth going to school to learn?

I know a few people that have completed full programs at metalworks. Theyve got some serious production skills. No doubt. But I also know many people who have not gone to production school, taken a lot of time reading, experimenting and learning from others for a tiny fraction of the cost of school.

Keep that in mind and also consider that most people who complete these types of programs can't get jobs in this industry. I'm not sure if thats a goal of yours but most of the people i know left the programs, couldn't get jobs but built small studios, began finding clients and started producing music and recording for them.

If youve got the money and time its not a bad idea. You learn from professionals and get the opportunity to use some great equipment. But you'll be paying a lot of money for something you can learn on your own for the cost of software and some books or dvds, or even free on youtube.

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Originally posted by terrytutone I know a few people that have completed full programs at metalworks. Theyve got some serious production skills. No doubt. But I also know many people who have not gone to production school, taken a lot of time reading, experimenting and learning from others for a tiny fraction of the cost of school. Keep that in mind and also consider that most people who complete these types of programs can't get jobs in this industry. I'm not sure if thats a goal of yours but most of the people i know left the programs, couldn't get jobs but built small studios, began finding clients and started producing music and recording for them. If youve got the money and time its not a bad idea. You learn from professionals and get the opportunity to use some great equipment. But you'll be paying a lot of money for something you can learn on your own for the cost of software and some books or dvds, or even free on youtube.

agreed.
its kinda like paying a school to learn how to use photoshop when there are craploads of books and information on the internet.

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Originally posted by terrytutone I know a few people that have completed full programs at metalworks. Theyve got some serious production skills. No doubt. But I also know many people who have not gone to production school, taken a lot of time reading, experimenting and learning from others for a tiny fraction of the cost of school. Keep that in mind and also consider that most people who complete these types of programs can't get jobs in this industry. I'm not sure if thats a goal of yours but most of the people i know left the programs, couldn't get jobs but built small studios, began finding clients and started producing music and recording for them. If youve got the money and time its not a bad idea. You learn from professionals and get the opportunity to use some great equipment. But you'll be paying a lot of money for something you can learn on your own for the cost of software and some books or dvds, or even free on youtube.

The thing with me is I'm a visual learner. I find it a lot easier if someone is showing me. You bring up really good points...maybe I should just get together with some friends who produce and watch what they do.

By going to a school you'll have access to gear not normally found in your buddy's basement. That experience is very valuable.

There are some other threads - do a search and you'll find lots of commentary.

yo b, learn all the basics at home at least, then take some advanced classes later

trial and error is a good way to learn, be it a very long and frustrating process...

oh and you can always come over... im setting up the WR downstairs as a recording booth... its gonna be pimmmp

you mean to say you're a kinesthetic learner, not visual, otherwise dvd's would do the job. (although most people are variations of each)

anyways, you probably would get a lot out of the program if you put a lot into it, just don't look at it as a means to employment as others have mentioned.

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Originally posted by Anas Attia yo b, learn all the basics at home at least, then take some advanced classes later trial and error is a good way to learn, be it a very long and frustrating process... oh and you can always come over... im setting up the WR downstairs as a recording booth... its gonna be pimmmp

Wicked, give me a call this week

p.s. elevate was killer

I live like 2 minutes away from Metalworks, but I heard the program there isn't as good and it's pretty pricey too. I'm still waiting to hear back from Harris :S

I think a lot of those programs are much more than just production so you'll end up learning a lot of stuff that may not find that useful to you. I'm sure it's great knowledge to have, but if you're just wanting to produce EDM you don't really need all the other skills you would noramlly use working in the industry.....especially for the money you'll spend.

I've just finished both the 101 and the 301 Apple certified course on Logic. There both 3 day courses, hands on in a classroom setting with an instructor. I had done some online tutorials and stuff with Logic so I had a good base, but these classes really got me fluent with Logic. The courses are $900 each but they gave me an "industry" discount of $350 each (actually, after the first course you get a $250 certificate so the second course only cost $100). I've been told I can continue to offer that price to friends so let me know if your interested.

Here's there website with the course outlines:

Witz Apple Certified Training

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