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Posted by Silky Johnson on May-05-2009 21:35:

Exclamation Controversial discussion inside: Theresa beware

This is about abuse towards women. I know that when a woman gets abused (physically, emotionally) it's not her fault, and people always say the man who does such a thing is sick...but what about the woman who stays in/seeks out abusive relationships? Clearly she has some kind of sickness as well, no?


edit: I'm not in any way suggesting any person deserves abuse. Just saying that it seems like nobody ever wants to examine the possibility that the woman has issues as well. At least not out in the open.


Posted by tubularbills on May-05-2009 21:36:

Re: Controverisal discussion inside: Theresa beware

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
This is about abuse towards women. I know that when a woman gets abused (physically, emotionally) it's not her fault, and people always say the man who does such a thing is sick...but what about the woman who stays in/seeks out abusive relationships? Clearly she has some kind of sickness as well, no?


yes and no.

HA HA! I RIDE THE FENCE YET AGAIN!

*runs*


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-05-2009 21:36:

Fuck you, Will. You goddamn pansy.


Posted by elFreak on May-05-2009 21:37:

i was hoping this thread would be about theresa getting beaten.

it all comes down to self esteem. The dumb broads that usually put up with this useless shit usually have none and daddy issues.


Posted by Alex on May-05-2009 21:37:

Bitches shouldn't be steppin' out.


Posted by l�cid on May-05-2009 21:37:

i tripped and fell over the couch... and um, my face hit the edge of our coffee table... it was such a silly mistake!


Posted by Big Worm on May-05-2009 21:38:

codependency?


Posted by Cpt.Cocaine on May-05-2009 21:38:

All I know is whenever I see a girl whining that her boyfriend/husband treats her like crap, I can't help but feel that she deserves it.


Posted by elFreak on May-05-2009 21:39:

it always amazes me how some people fear being alone so much that they think they can't do better than a guy who likes to use her for tai bo practice.

billy blanks says no.


Posted by Banora on May-05-2009 21:41:

I'll just leave this here:


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-05-2009 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Big Worm
codependency?





Yeah for sure. I think what I mean to say is: it's dumb that it's not pc to talk about the woman's role in abusive relationships, and therefore perpetuate her role as the victim. I don't see how that helps fragile people get better.


Posted by Slylee on May-05-2009 21:42:

it usually starts with the guy sweeping the girl off her feet, and then turning into a possessive dick and the girl doesn't even see it coming. guys who abuse seek out the insecure types and just break them down and manipulate, etc...

but i have a hard time sympathizing with women who return to abusive men. i can understand going back after a very isolated drunken blowout or something and maybe the guy just lost it and got physical and didn't remember, but just going back to a guy who constantly treats you like dirt AND abuses you is just fucking lame and weak.


Posted by Dervish on May-05-2009 21:42:

Plenty of abusive women too!!! How many women get off with murdering their husbands because they were "stressed"/"abused"?

A women in my home town got off with that, stabbed the guy to death with a knife. The whole town knew they argued equally but she gets off straight out.

And plenty of other abusive women. It's not so one sided.

In the end if you stay with someone and you're an adult then really it is your choice to an extent, but proper cuts/bruises violence should never be let to happen by either party.


Posted by tubularbills on May-05-2009 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Fuck you, Will. You goddamn pansy.


bitch don't make me slap you


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-05-2009 21:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
Plenty of abusive women too!!! How many women get off with murdering their husbands because they were "stressed"/"abused"?

A women in my home town got off with that, stabbed the guy to death with a knife. The whole town knew they argued equally but she gets off straight out.

And plenty of other abusive women. It's not so one sided.

In the end if you stay with someone and you're an adult then really it is your choice to an extent, but proper cuts/bruises violence should never be let to happen by either party.





I'm aware of that, and I agree...but with woman abuse especially, it seems like people are all like "Oh no! Hush hush, let's not talk about her obvious issues because she's so fragile, and how dare we suggest that she have any part in it."


Am I wrong?


Posted by Joss Weatherby on May-05-2009 21:44:

Re: Controversial discussion inside: Theresa beware

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
This is about abuse towards women. I know that when a woman gets abused (physically, emotionally) it's not her fault, and people always say the man who does such a thing is sick...but what about the woman who stays in/seeks out abusive relationships? Clearly she has some kind of sickness as well, no?


edit: I'm not in any way suggesting any person deserves abuse. Just saying that it seems like nobody ever wants to examine the possibility that the woman has issues as well. At least not out in the open.



Its probably a sign of systemic abuse that has infiltrated the women's life since she was a small girl and probably has been the same for her mother and her mothers mother.

The same can be said for the man as well, most of the time people don't randomly start abusing people for no good reason. It was probably something he saw his father do to his mother, or maybe his father did to him...

Humans are a sick creature of influence most of the time. Things that we are exposed to as children will often bare some sort of affect on our lives as we grow older, no matter how small it is. It just requires that people try their best to concur their internal conflicts and do what society says is the right thing, which hopefully is the global consensus on what is morally/ethically right.

...



See Will, thats how you ride the fence...


Posted by Renzo on May-05-2009 21:44:

Bitches don't get beat up enough imo.


Posted by elFreak on May-05-2009 21:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
it usually starts with the guy sweeping the girl off her feet, and then turning into a possessive dick and the girl doesn't even see it coming. guys who abuse seek out the insecure types and just break them down and manipulate, etc...

but i have a hard time sympathizing with women who return to abusive men. i can understand going back after a very isolated drunken blowout or something and maybe the guy just lost it and got physical and didn't remember, but just going back to a guy who constantly treats you like dirt AND abuses you is just fucking lame and weak.


why would you understand going back after a drunken blowout?

adults don't use being drunk as an excuse for their actions.

if it happens once, it will happen again end of story.

bitch needs to have some self worth and not accept that treatment no matter what sorry.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on May-05-2009 21:48:

Materialism?
Myself, I've been going out to the dealerships for the previous week looking for THE CAR, Acura, Infiniti and all that stuff. I'm thinking to myself right now, if one of the agents came to me and said "hey honey, had a bad day today. If I tie you up to a chair, and I beat you to a bloody pulp, take your glasses and break them in half, and then spit in your mouth and gag you until you swallow my load, I will let you walk off the lot with this brand new black G35. But you gotta come back tomorrow so I can buy you some new dark saucer glasses, maybe some clothes, jewelry and some sweet stuff to make up for all the bad things I'm going to do to you today", I would say, "Do it."


Posted by yukii on May-05-2009 21:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine
All I know is whenever I see a girl whining that her boyfriend/husband treats her like crap, I can't help but feel that she deserves it.


+1


Posted by Dervish on May-05-2009 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
I'm aware of that, and I agree...but with woman abuse especially, it seems like people are all like "Oh no! Hush hush, let's not talk about her obvious issues because she's so fragile, and how dare we suggest that she have any part in it."


Am I wrong?


From the cases I've seen it's the other way round. Really a women getting beaten up/abused basically gets the moral outrage of the community (and they know people will support her if she outs him). Where as a guy, is he going to tell anyone? If he did would he get supported or mocked? (hence why I think it's less noticed)

Plus if she hits him and he hits her back........ who is the big bad abuser? You know that the guy is going to get raked over the coals for "hitting a poor women". And thats always a factor with decent guys, women know they can hit you without getting hit back. People will even sometimes just see it as an independent strong women "teaching the man right".

The double standards are bullshit.


Posted by Silky Johnson on May-05-2009 21:50:

Holy fuck shut up Yukii, you don't even suck your bf's dick. You deserve to get beat, imo.


Posted by Big Worm on May-05-2009 21:51:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Holy fuck shut up Yukii, you don't even suck your bf's dick. You deserve to get beat, imo.


with krypton's dick


Posted by Cpt.Cocaine on May-05-2009 21:51:


Posted by elFreak on May-05-2009 21:51:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Holy fuck shut up Yukii, you don't even suck your bf's dick. You deserve to get beat, imo.


that being said, do we all agree that a few playful whacks of rigid cock on the forehead during oral is not abuse?


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