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Does anybody actually have a success story related to this piece of shit?
So I wish to show some initiation in job hunting, seeing as how I'm graduating and everything, and the first thing I decide to do is put my resume out there via some sort of 'job search' website. I choose this.
Since then, I've been called by at least 5 telemarketers, received various spam emails that are near identical to each other with only the company names changing claiming they are 'looking for new employees', and for some reason, there is always another step that this piece of shit didn't tell me to do.
'Now that you are done, sign up for CareerBuilder PRO, where your resume will be among the first seen by employers!'
So your saying that since I'm not Pro, my resume is thrown somewhere probably invisible to any company who actually is trying to find new workers? What the fuck is the point of this? Stupid.
do not trust whatever they say. a friend of mine said it best. they are nothing but headhunters to just fill holes. they do not care about your needs, but to fill quotas, and get the commission cut.
i say use other job search engines, such as your local employment ads, monster, indeed, dice, etc .... (can't think of any at the moment). also, do some research, and see what companies are out there in your city and are hiring. just remember. you're not the only one looking for a job. there are 1000 more people in the same situation as you. 
Truth. The job market absolutely sucks right now, so I've got shit working in my favor. Also, what makes, say, Monster better than CareerBuilder? Aren't they the same thing?
(I realize they aren't the same thing...I mean don't they serve the same purpose)
you are never going to find a good job this way.
this is the lazy way to do things, the same way that 2 million people who are being lazy and half assed are doing as well.
You want a good job? Go straight to company websites and apply directly. Looking for work is really hard work if you want success at it, you are not going to get anywhere by hitting submit and waiting.
Start slow, try and ask yourself what you want to work in. Choose 10 companies that you think you would like to work for in this domain. Check their website for employment and even if they don't have anything up, send in a resume to the hr/people dept (usually can be found on the website) and include a cover letter. Show a little initiative and it could pay off.
Keep doing this and only the people you want to call you will, and all the shit you don't want won't.
I always chuckle at people that complain that they have no jobs because of the "stupid job sites".
it ain't them.
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| Originally posted by elFreak you are never going to find a good job this way. |
Jay's on point. The only thing I'll add is that there are some career-specific sites that aggregate job postings or employers in a given field - these are good options if you know exactly what you want. The post-your-resume-and-wait sites aren't likely to give you anything substantive.
As an example, for international development NGO's:
http://www.interaction.org/members/#memberlist
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| Originally posted by gehzumteufel I like some of your advice, but this is the biggest lie ever. I know many people who have found good paying jobs through the internet. That is not to say that you shouldn't use other means, but the internet is not a failboat for finding jobs either. |
No offense man, but if you ever want a better job than that, you are either going to have to know someone or look in different places then every other fucking guy in the world does.
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| Originally posted by elFreak don't you work in a call lab or something? No offense man, but if you ever want a better job than that, you are either going to have to know someone or look in different places then every other fucking guy in the world does.did you see what i wrote ben? I am telling him to use the internet for now, just not in a fucking lame and lazy way. I just got a better job this week and gave my notice to my current job. I didn't find it on Monster, and even if i had a pretty decent job i still pounded the pavement to see if i could not do better. To the OP, i am curious, what degree are you geting and what do you honestly expect your first job to be like? |
Also, yes I did read your post Jay. You flat out said, the internet = failboat for jobs. Which is flat out wrong. It isn't the holy grail either, but calling the internet the failboat for job search is just plain dumb.
please show me the exact quote ben.
last time i checked "go straight to the company website...", does not infer internet = failboat.
reading comprehension, work on it.
click submit and wait = failboat.
if it wasn't you would have a better job.
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| Originally posted by elFreak you are never going to find a good job this way. this is the lazy way to do things, the same way that 2 million people who are being lazy and half assed are doing as well. |
yes because their hr is too busy to actively recruit people to answer phones themselves. Entry level positions are a dime a dozen.
we can sit here and argue semantics, but the fact remains only one of us has achieved results in the way we went at things. I am not trying to be mean, you are just coming off the as the guy who knows how to do something but hasn't actually managed to do it.
If you are sending a resume somewhere, you are sucking someone's dick, pandering to someone's shoes.
Learn from someone in this thread. Rags to riches is the way to go. Everyone has a beautiful mind, and creativity pays by the schematic. Do something crazy, wild, revolutionary. Somewhere in this world is a market for a television series about an alternate universe where Hitler outbids the recruitment fee of Einstein; somewhere in this world, a group of people NEED a shoe with a personal air conditioner; somewhere in this world, a boy sits at his desk thinking "gee, I wonder what would happen if I tried to implement drum and bass with classical gregorian chant and a hint of uplifting supersaws. Nah, I'll just go back to my math homework."
You need food, water and shelter. Get a job for these functions only so that your brain has ample nutrition to flourish.
Lil Wayne, Seth Rogan, Halle Berry......
Both of you bring relevant truths to the table, both elfreak & gehzumteufel are correct; both initiative and intelligent use of resources (internet, ads, etc) are necessary to get an interview.
I'd say you should focus on 'competitive advantage' and see yourself as a 'product' or 'item'. Do not dwell excessively on what kind of job you want, you probably won't get it; the best jobs are those which require years of experience in your given field.
Your level of education is vital I think, same goes for your past experiences. My advice to you would be to actually get out there, explore the job market & even travel someplace else if you feel that your current sector is played out...
My teachers always tell me, don't worry about finding a dream job, worry about why you are going to work for any given company. Does the company reflect your values? Will your talent be an advantage for them to use? etc.
good luck
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| Originally posted by elFreak To the OP, i am curious, what degree are you geting and what do you honestly expect your first job to be like? |
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| Originally posted by SuspicionVandit If you are sending a resume somewhere, you are sucking someone's dick, |
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| Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 And gehzumteufel, how did you get your job? I feel that everything is online now, which sucks because you are merely another statistic. How do I get in their faces without looking like a dumbass? |
No offense man, but general degrees aren't looked upon very well. Seen a few of my manager friends talk about it. They just see it as an "easy" degree that people have taken advantage of.
if you want to get into sales, you are most probably going to have to start on a phone whether you like it or not. Almost all of Business to business is done this way these ways , due to it being more efficient and cheaper.
It can be soul numbing work (they are metrics driven usually), trust me i know, the job i just quit was in the sales field, albeit it at the managerial level. The turnover is big in these jobs, but if you can stick it out and not want to blow your brains out, eventually the upper level sales jobs/management are much more diverse and can be rewarding.
A degree is never bad to have, but if you are looking for a specialized career you will probably have no choice but to go back to school.
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| Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000 face-to-face |
face to face jobs in sales other than car dealerships and low paying retail are only reserved for people higher up in companies (talking big companies here) and are not given to entry level candidates. It does not make sense financially to do this.
its not true that sites like monster/careerbuilder dont work. i got my current job and also the one before that through such sites, and both were great jobs with great pay. i think it depends on your field of work.
i've also been quite lucky with craigslist as far as jobs go.
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| Originally posted by AnotherWay83 its not true that sites like monster/careerbuilder dont work. i got my current job and also the one before that through such sites, and both were great jobs with great pay. i think it depends on your field of work. i've also been quite lucky with craigslist as far as jobs go. |
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| Originally posted by gehzumteufel No offense man, but general degrees aren't looked upon very well. Seen a few of my manager friends talk about it. They just see it as an "easy" degree that people have taken advantage of. |
), and I've got manager experience under my belt. I think that'll make my resume look all the more attractive. But of course, I can't solely rely on just that...going back to school is almost a necessity at this point. | quote: |
| Originally posted by elFreak A degree is never bad to have, but if you are looking for a specialized career you will probably have no choice but to go back to school. |
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| Originally posted by ******** Making money isn't difficult you just need to put the effort into it. |
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