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Posted by lowski on May-11-2009 20:00:

Propellerhead - Record

http://www.propellerheads.se/products/record/

thought you guys might like this . i'm gonna pick it up along with a guitar right away.
i'm still reading about it but i hope it works with reason 4


Posted by DeZmA on May-11-2009 20:35:

it works with reason 4 - no rewire needed, it's integrated if you own reason

it's getting released 9 september


Posted by Storyteller on May-11-2009 20:44:

I posted this on another forum as well, but in Dutch.

It's a bunch of missed opportunities in one package.
* No vsts for starters. Just a big miss, nothing more, nothing less.
* They market it as "the perfect simple tool designed for singers/songwriters instead of audio engineers". Yet the mixing desk shows thousands of knobs which get singers in a state of hypnosis before they can get anything done. It just doesn't line up. Why not introduce all those knobs in an effect and keep the channels simple with an on/off button.
* It's stupid you need to pay the full price for a product that should have been included in reason, which supposedly is a 'complete' sequencer but lacks audio tracks.

Of course I expect the product itself will be fine. But there's just to many things wrong about it.


Posted by cryophonik on May-11-2009 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller

It's a bunch of missed opportunities in one package.
* No vsts for starters. Just a big miss, nothing more, nothing less.



Yeah, I agree - that's a big miss IMO as well.


Posted by music2dance2 on May-11-2009 20:55:

Could of guessed this is what was coming from earlier this week. About time, the mixing console looks good, will be nice to have more control on the eq side of things. 9th sept sooo long away.....anyone gonna test the beta?


Posted by music2dance2 on May-11-2009 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
I posted this on another forum as well, but in Dutch.

It's a bunch of missed opportunities in one package.
* No vsts for starters. Just a big miss, nothing more, nothing less.
* They market it as "the perfect simple tool designed for singers/songwriters instead of audio engineers". Yet the mixing desk shows thousands of knobs which get singers in a state of hypnosis before they can get anything done. It just doesn't line up. Why not introduce all those knobs in an effect and keep the channels simple with an on/off button.
* It's stupid you need to pay the full price for a product that should have been included in reason, which supposedly is a 'complete' sequencer but lacks audio tracks.

Of course I expect the product itself will be fine. But there's just to many things wrong about it.


agreed, to be honest those guys at propellerhead could of done this years ago when audio is concerned. The VST side will prob not happen with reason.

If they incorporated audio and/or VST in earlier versions they'd have less money to make now lol. Next year will be some other add on which cost X amount, then in version 6 who know's VST support another �200 lol.....


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-11-2009 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by DeZmA
it works with reason 4 - no rewire needed, it's integrated if you own reason

it's getting released 9 september


shit!!! my dream came true. wickiiiid.
btw fuck vst its so dated lol.

Record for Reason Owners is $149

hahaha this is the shit. best news in ages.

mixer looks awesome, all those knobs, droooooolll


Posted by Subtle on May-11-2009 21:05:

Reason will never get VST support.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-11-2009 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Reason will never get VST support.

beacuse VST is a peace of unstabile crap
i love this, if that mixer is good im gonna have a second thought about going Mac/Logic.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on May-11-2009 21:09:

Including VSTs makes absolutely no sense if Reason is going to continue having the "synth rack + wires" setup at its core. That would not work with VST.

Of course, they could always just throw that idea out and remake the program into something more like Ableton / Cubase / Logic, I guess. I think that would be a shame.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-11-2009 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Of course, they could always just throw that idea out and remake the program into something more like Ableton / Cubase / Logic, I guess. I think that would be a shame.

hell no this is why ive always come back to reason. beacuse it doesnt suck like those others. this is intuitive stuff right here. i didnt find about whether it has midi out or not though, i hope it has.


Posted by cryophonik on May-11-2009 21:11:

I don't plan on buying it, but I have to say that, in contrast to Storyteller, I actually like the look of its mixer. Everything is right there - EQ, compressor, gate/expander - all color-differentiated and neatly arranged with an SSL vibe. However, I really don't like white-ish-colored background - too hard on the eyes especially for those of us who tend to work in the dark. But, maybe you'll have the option to change it.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-11-2009 21:16:

The white background comes from Windows settings. So its customable. I dont know in a mac though. Mixer looks fucking great, i hope i can sequence and mix everything in Record both stuff from Reason and Record. Best news ive heard for a long time, im buying the exact date. Its in my calendar now lol. Im on fire now. Also hope the sound quality from the mixer is a bit better than Reason, with individual dynamics settings and eq on the mixer it should be easier than before chaining all kindsa shit. Cant wait


Posted by cryophonik on May-11-2009 21:19:



Hmmm...I wonder where they got the idea for the interface?

Doesn't matter - still looks good to me.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-11-2009 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by music2dance2
If they incorporated audio and/or VST in earlier versions they'd have less money to make now lol. Next year will be some other add on which cost X amount, then in version 6 who know's VST support another �200 lol.....

its called marketing.
smart dudes over there.
cant wait to fiddle with all those knobs, im gonna need a new midicontroller


Posted by Subtle on May-11-2009 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
hell no this is why ive always come back to reason. beacuse it doesnt suck like those others. this is intuitive stuff right here. i didnt find about whether it has midi out or not though, i hope it has.
Good question, would be a joke if it didnt though.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-11-2009 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Good question, would be a joke if it didnt though.

yeah what to record then? my voice lol? maybe i can finaly buy another Clavia which i miss so much. Think i need to start saving now.


Posted by music2dance2 on May-11-2009 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
beacuse VST is a peace of unstabile crap
i love this, if that mixer is good im gonna have a second thought about going Mac/Logic.


was you moving onto logic or do you mean rewire with both?


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-11-2009 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by music2dance2
was you moving onto logic or do you mean rewire with both?

im in a process now (since almost a year ago lol, im slow) going from PC to Mac and Logic as I havent been fully satisfied with Reason's soundquality, hope it will improve/be easier on ReCord. I dont think im gonna stop the Mac/Logic-process anyway though caus im starting to like Mac, slowly, real damn slow and the included instruments in Logic seems great. So some sort of rewiring i think. its good to be good on two daws anyway, and Reason is VERY portable.


Posted by Subtle on May-11-2009 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by music2dance2
was you moving onto logic or do you mean rewire with both?
Palm is still going to move on to Logic.

That is just how it is.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-11-2009 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Palm is still going to move on to Logic.

That is just how it is.


guess i am then

it doesnt matter though, been producing only shit the last year, if any at all. might just as well produce on PS1 again.


Posted by music2dance2 on May-11-2009 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
im in a process now (since almost a year ago lol, im slow) going from PC to Mac and Logic as I havent been fully satisfied with Reason's soundquality, hope it will improve/be easier on ReCord. I dont think im gonna stop the Mac/Logic-process anyway though caus im starting to like Mac, slowly, real damn slow and the included instruments in Logic seems great. So some sort of rewiring i think. its good to be good on two daws anyway, and Reason is VERY portable.


Ah right, I totally understand where you are coming from. I too have been toying with moving onto logic and/or ableton with rewiring to start with (with reason)

Agreed hope the EQ section with record and the audio facility brings things up to speed, but I feel a year on from that will probably be in the same situation again. Well looking forward to using it though.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-11-2009 21:34:

I find it abit weird they just dont call it Reason 5 though???


Posted by thecYrus on May-11-2009 21:43:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
I find it abit weird they just dont call it Reason 5 though???


it doesn't have any synths. it has only audio tracks.

beside that the featureset looks very poor. no simple audio manipulation in there like reverse, normalize, invert, ...


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-11-2009 21:50:

i meant that ReCord should really be a Reason upgrade combining everything in Reason, both old Reason stuff and new Record stuff. Doesnt matter though as Im only have to pay 150. Bet it works flawless together too as all Propheads stuff do. Now i can finaly start recording Rebirth's TB303 too hahaha. Goodtimes soon.


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