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How do YOU approach making an original AND a remix
I know there are posts that already talk about this, but we have new members and I'm sure people have evolved their approaches over time.
How do you approach an original?
How do you approach a remix?
I'm going to pass on the first question because I've yet to finish an original, but I always start with kick and percs. I think im going to continue that and instead of doing my bassline after that do my chords then bassline.
For a remix, I put every MIDI on a track and cycle through presets. As I cycle through them, my mind is heavily stimulated and it helps me to decide how I want to approach the track. After that, I do what I do with my originals.
bassline and leads first
If I'm lucky, I'll get an impulse and take it that direction right from the start. Other times come from playing ideas (on the midi keyboard) over the original/original's parts (basslines, chord progressions, lead solos) which usually generates enough of an idea to move forward.
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| Originally posted by echosystm bassline and leads first |
REMIX: What do I hear in the original as it "should be"
ORIGINAL: Percussion > Melody > Bassline > harmonies > Arrangement
idk it really varies. but usually
ORIGINAL: main theme (usually pad melody) > drums/bassline/groove > melody > harmony > arrangement
REMIX: same as above
idk sometimes it really varies and depends on what pops into your head first cuz sometimes i start with the drums or sometimes i start with the melody. dont try and put a formula on it, just do what you feel.
Kick (although it will change like 5 times before completing a song), percussion, bassline, lead. Then I'll lay out the structure of the structure of the track and see what more it needs. Then i'll tweak and tweak for a month or so before allowing it to become complete.
Usually I start with the bassline.
Well.. For me -
Remix : Start with a good bassline that goes along with the song! Then trust your instincts...
Make a good intro, decide on arrangement, your signature effects (Like mine's Stuttering), and try to bring in those elements that were concealed in the original song.
Originals : Happen a lot like "Love at first sight"..
Your Doing sometihng usual and suddenly an idea strikes your mind. and then you make a small MIDI out of it.
The rest of the process is just remixing it!
I can never "Sit" to make an original. It is purely Inspiration!
Cheers ! 
originals: pray and hope something works.
remix: well I try to make it as original as possible and try to make it of a different genre sometimes. Sometimes because of the overall structure of the song, you can't do that. I try to stick with the main theme of the song to remind the listener that it's still true to the original work.
half the time I just listen to the acapellas or just look at midi notes, and I never listen to the the original song. When I'm stuck I listen to the original.
IF i'm makinga bootleg of a classic, that's just too hard for me, because sometimes you just do not need to remix an already good song. it's not a bad idea to do it for learning experience though.
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| Originally posted by DJ RANN +1, but I also sometimes just get a groove going then let the lead develop around that. Remixing is a different matter - I often hear a track and know instinctively what I'd do it to make it my creation - what's missing, what I would add, what I would take away etc. It's about adapting the vibe of the original, so that it compliments it but makes it something very different in feel, if not content of melody. |
Drums, Bass, Arrangement, Synths, Effects and then back and forth between all of them to it all sits right.
original: I think the most important thing for me is sound design. I like to start off by making some really interesting sounds / rhythmic textures. once you have some nice sounds to play with you can start thinking about programming a groove around it.
remix: I haven't really tried too many of these, however if I was going to do a remix I would listen to the original and try to decide what the most defining feature of the song is. Is it a melody? Is it a bassline? Is it a sound effect? I'd try and maintain the integrity of that defining quality and then build a new interpretation of the rest of the song around it.
Just translate my thoughts into reality.
I'm trying something different for remixes, and that's intentionally not listening to the original or any other remixes of said track. It only works with things like remix contests and such. I'm doing this for Cryptonik's contest.
I might be the only one but for both Remix and Originals, the first thing I usually put together is the breakdown. Then I create the rest based on that.
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| Originally posted by PDM I might be the only one but for both Remix and Originals, the first thing I usually put together is the breakdown. Then I create the rest based on that. |
I know it doesn't make sense, but that is what I do, the leads and chords you mention I have them in my head, but they usually change when I'm finished with the breakdown.
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| Originally posted by PDM I know it doesn't make sense, but that is what I do, the leads and chords you mention I have them in my head, but they usually change when I'm finished with the breakdown. |
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| Originally posted by EddieZilker No excuses. If you're not going to be bothered making music the correct way, following strict guidelines and protocols, you're sending a bad message when you achieve a desired result. Tomorrow's kids are going to grow up, thinking they can start songs, right in the middle, rather than at the beginning and that's, clearly, wrong. Get your act together or we'll ban you from the producer's guild. If you can't do it for yourself, do it for the children. |
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| Originally posted by echosystm bassline and leads first |
original- it always just depends but i often find myself starting with the chord progression with some pads and work it from there
remix- i always like incorporating at least part of the percussion of a track into a remix so i often start by chopping up the samples and going from there
I tend to write a hook and build it from there. Usually I'll have some generic drums to get the timing right, but I'll replace them as I get closer. Then I flesh it out with atmospheric sounds and pads, dice up some of the tracks so that theres more texture. If I get stuck on a part and can't think of what to do, I have a stash of different elements, say a quarter of a song each, and I just slap them together and throw some worcester sauce on.
Then I get my cat to trample the keyboard for ten minutes, call it minimal and go enjoy a nice line of coke and a scotch.
Not the second bit
Haha! I guess that makes the rebel, the black sheep, the underdog.. hmm I like that.
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| Originally posted by EddieZilker No excuses. If you're not going to be bothered making music the correct way, following strict guidelines and protocols, you're sending a bad message when you achieve a desired result. Tomorrow's kids are going to grow up, thinking they can start songs, right in the middle, rather than at the beginning and that's, clearly, wrong. Get your act together or we'll ban you from the producer's guild. If you can't do it for yourself, do it for the children. |
i put a flanger and a filter over the original
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