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Supermarkets 5 cents a bag... Short sightedness at it's best!

Exactly how are we now expected to throw out our garbage? So either a nickle a bag (which im told is supposed to STOP me from buying bags) or i shell out for garbage bags... or i get the paper liquor store bags which take MORE energy to produce and kill trees and causes a huge mess.

This whole law stinks of socialist ideology and lacks in realism.

This is not new though. Many stores have been charging for bags for years already.

Moron. You can buy plain white bags for the garbage at Canadian Tire, Walmart...and I would also imagine hardware stores and the like.

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict This is not new though. Many stores have been charging for bags for years already.

Ahhh but the difference is that a) it wasnt a forced law and b) most importantly it was part of the business model to provide CHEAPER PRICES. I dont mind paying a nickle for an oversized bag at no frills when the prices are 20-30% cheaper. Now you have the nanny state nitwits involved and all it is doing is padding the bottom line of the major supermarkets, environment my ass!

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Originally posted by jennypie Moron. You can buy plain white bags for the garbage at Canadian Tire, Walmart...and I would also imagine hardware stores and the like.

Why should i have to BUY them? I thought the idea of nickle a bag was so that no one used them. So whats the alternative? Ah but you see, this isnt about the environment and now they are making more money so why should they care?

Ummm, I've been paying 5c a bag for a long time as my grocery store for my last 4 or so years has been No Frills - get over yourself.

You (pick 1, or do all ... like I do)

a) Suck up that oh so horrible cost of 5c a bag when doing your groceries.
b) Buy garbage bags.
c) Save up bags when you go shopping at other stores (ie: convenience stores).

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Why should i have to BUY them? I thought the idea of nickle a bag was so that no one used them. So whats the alternative? Ah but you see, this isnt about the environment and now they are making more money so why should they care?

It's to reduce the use of disposable bags when there are reusable alternatives available.

Hell, in addition to my above post actually - I rarely use bags from the grocery store at all. I shop with a granny cart, and just load stuff up w/o using bags 99% of the time - I buy a box of garbage bags once every few months. I use either 2 of the smaller garbage bags a week (if not less), or 1 big green bag every 2 weeks or so .. (and, if I was so inclined I could /really/ reduce this actually...), which seems to me like it results in less plastic bags in the land-fills. As, when I did use grocery bags for garbage, I'd be using a few of them per week.

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Originally posted by kaniz c) Save up bags when you go shopping at other stores (ie: convenience stores).

Exactly. Only grocery stores are doing this...you're trying to tell us that you don't go shopping at any other store that uses bags?

I can't remember which thread (probably the coupons or free stuff thread), but there was a link to a place that gives away FREE garbage bags too. So there ya go, shut your pie hole already. Not every environmental initiative (whether you think is helpful or not) is meant to turn our country into a nanny state.

P.S. It would be very interesting to see what our country would look like with you as Prime Minister Jay. lol

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Why should i have to BUY them? I thought the idea of nickle a bag was so that no one used them. So whats the alternative? Ah but you see, this isnt about the environment and now they are making more money so why should they care?

My god I bet your vagina is really sandy. I'm surprised it still manages to produce tears.

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Originally posted by Jayx1

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Originally posted by kaniz Ummm, I've been paying 5c a bag for a long time as my grocery store for my last 4 or so years has been No Frills - get over yourself. You (pick 1, or do all ... like I do) a) Suck up that oh so horrible cost of 5c a bag when doing your groceries.

Why should I? And why should the government be involved in this? How about a 5 cent DISCOUNT off the grocery bill for not using a bag?

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b) Buy garbage bags.

Again more cost and defeats the purpose doesnt it?

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c) Save up bags when you go shopping at other stores (ie: convenience stores).

i think this city of toronto law applies to all stores does it not? if not it will soon.

Yah to cite environmental reasons is bullshit...

They're just tired of giving out free bags...

But that's fine, there are many ways to get around it...

Not a big deal...

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Originally posted by kaniz It's to reduce the use of disposable bags when there are reusable alternatives available. Hell, in addition to my above post actually - I rarely use bags from the grocery store at all. I shop with a granny cart, and just load stuff up w/o using bags 99% of the time - I buy a box of garbage bags once every few months. I use either 2 of the smaller garbage bags a week (if not less), or 1 big green bag every 2 weeks or so .. (and, if I was so inclined I could /really/ reduce this actually...), which seems to me like it results in less plastic bags in the land-fills. As, when I did use grocery bags for garbage, I'd be using a few of them per week.

Good for you! Now what if i passed a law that said what you are doing is wrong and that you must use plastic bags? Youd have a problem with that wouldnt you? Different ways for different people. Im tired of certain elements in society mandating their way or the highway in every microchasm of my life. Enough already!

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Why should i have to BUY them? I thought the idea of nickle a bag was so that no one used them. So whats the alternative? Ah but you see, this isnt about the environment and now they are making more money so why should they care?

You should have to buy them because they're a product you use in everyday life, much like everything else. They were free before, and now they're not. Not complicated.

You realize the charge is meant for SHOPPING bags, right? They don't give away these bags at the grocery store for your fucking garbage. Idiot.

You're acting as if they're charging you a nickel for every plastic bag ever created. Fuck, nice use of logic there, retard.

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Originally posted by VDub Yah to cite environmental reasons is bullshit... They're just tired of giving out free bags... But that's fine, there are many ways to get around it... Not a big deal...

If its just the supermarkets doing it privately its bad enough. And they are all doing it at the same time. Arent there laws against collusion?

But the worst part is that the government is involved YET AGAIN.

It is a big deal as it sets more precedent for even more interference and social engineering by the nanny state.

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Originally posted by jennypie You realize the charge is meant for SHOPPING bags, right? They don't give away these bags at the grocery store for your fucking garbage. Idiot.

You dont need to insult as it really dilutes anything else you have to say

Thats the nice thing about recycling though. Using things for purposes that are secondary to its main use. I recycle my grocery bags by using them as garbage bags, or to carry secondary items. etc etc. But recycling is only good if the government controls it i guess?

I think people are missing the point here....it has nothing to do with the cost of the bags...its the fact that the government body is making a law stating that you have to pay for the plastic bags.

What's next....having to pay for a receipt?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 You dont need to insult as it really dilutes anything else you have to say

No, I definitely need to name call/insult. It gives me a feeling of pleasure. Thanks for telling me what I need/don't need to do though. Kind of hypocritical of you, isn't it?

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I think people are missing the point here....it has nothing to do with the cost of the bags...its the fact that the government body is making a law stating that you have to pay for the plastic bags.

precisely.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced What's next....having to pay for a receipt?

Dont give them any ideas.

Companies are trying to make you pay more for paper bills in the mail. "for the environment" of course.

Of course you still have to print them out at home at YOUR COST but no one ever mentions that!

So then why don't you stick it to the government and find alternative methods instead?? I think THAT'S the real point here. Stop playing the fucking victim here, god. You all sound like retards.

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Originally posted by jennypie No, I definitely need to name call/insult. It gives me a feeling of pleasure. Thanks for telling me what I need/don't need to do though. Kind of hypocritical of you, isn't it?

You dont see me passing a law over it do u?

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Originally posted by jennypie No, I definitely need to name call/insult. It gives me a feeling of pleasure. Thanks for telling me what I need/don't need to do though. Kind of hypocritical, of you, isn't it?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Good for you! Now what if i passed a law that said what you are doing is wrong and that you must use plastic bags? Youd have a problem with that wouldnt you? Different ways for different people. Im tired of certain elements in society mandating their way or the highway in every microchasm of my life. Enough already!

While there is an element to what you're saying I do agree with, along with fears of "nanny state"/etc, some things you get 'outraged' about leave me scratching my head a bit. Sort of like PETA, while at one level I can agree with part of their cause, but they are just such a bunch of whack jobs I have a hard time taking anything they do seriously.

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Why should I? And why should the government be involved in this? How about a 5 cent DISCOUNT off the grocery bill for not using a bag?

I'd venture a guess that more people are likely to respond to a charge than a discount. Being charged for a bag = more likely to not get the bag. Where a discount is more likely to go unnoticed and not change consumer behavior that much.

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Again more cost and defeats the purpose doesn't it?

How is it defeating the purpose?
- Many people out right toss their grocery bags
- They don't hold as much garbage

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