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Border Patrol tased local pastor

Ran into this story earlier today.

Pastor was stopped at checkpoint in AZ and was tased after failure to follow orders. Was not arrested for any specific crime.


http://freedomsphoenix.com/Feature-...tm?Info=0056971

I'm sure he's suing the pants off the govt.

I went through a border patrol checkpoint in New Mexico last Friday. The guy asked me several questions which I should have not answered.

Are you an American citizen? (Ok to answer)
Where are you going? (Should not have answered)
Where are you from? (Should not have answered)

This guy, while I feel for his reasoning, was fucking dumb. If a trained drug dog smells, or thinks he/she smells drugs, that is probable cause. He should never have resisted. He was a dumb fuck for resisting.

Also, this guy is a douchebag. He proceeds to treat all officers like a piece of shit. While I hate police, I don't fucking antagonize them either.

fuck them they've detained my ass so many times it isn't funny

hello mr. cavazos how are you today?
third time you've come through the checkpoint today... where are the drugs at?


traitors to their own people all of them

i always ask them if their grandmother knows what they're doing to their own people and if she's proud to have a traitor as a grandchild

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel This guy, while I feel for his reasoning, was fucking dumb. If a trained drug dog smells, or thinks he/she smells drugs, that is probably cause. He should never have resisted. He was a dumb fuck for resisting. Also, this guy is a douchebag. He proceeds to treat all officers like a piece of shit. While I hate police, I don't fucking antagonize them either.

I agree to a certain extent. We do not have access to video evidence of the dog barking or not barking @ the pastor's car. So we really don't know what set the cops off to begin with. That's a major piece of the puzzle which happens to be missing.

It's the guys own fault. He wouldn't answer their questions, he wouldn't get out of the car when they asked him to, and then he acted like a douche by pulling out the camera and antagonizing them. How do they know he isn't trying to buy time so a bomb can go off, or that he isn't intending on pulling out a weapon and trying to kill one of them?

I don't agree with them beating the shit out of him, but I don't blame them for forcefully getting him out of the vehicle. They should have just arrested him and tossed him into jail. The beating was overboard IMO.

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Originally posted by Brian Scott I agree to a certain extent. We do not have access to video evidence of the dog barking or not barking @ the pastor's car. So we really don't know what set the cops off to begin with. That's a major piece of the puzzle which happens to be missing.

Agreed, but even if we did, we aren't trained in this shit. You leave that to the professionals.

They used excessive force for sure, but the guy just needs to shut the fuck up.

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Originally posted by Theresa It's the guys own fault. He wouldn't answer their questions, he wouldn't get out of the car when they asked him to, and then he acted like a douche by pulling out the camera and antagonizing them. How do they know he isn't trying to buy time so a bomb can go off, or that he isn't intending on pulling out a weapon and trying to kill one of them? I don't agree with them beating the shit out of him, but I don't blame them for forcefully getting him out of the vehicle. They should have just arrested him and tossed him into jail. The beating was overboard IMO.

all i hear is a sheep making a lot of baaaaaahhhh sounds

sheep the whole lot of you fucks

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Originally posted by Theresa It's the guys own fault. He wouldn't answer their questions, he wouldn't get out of the car when they asked him to, and then he acted like a douche by pulling out the camera and antagonizing them. How do they know he isn't trying to buy time so a bomb can go off, or that he isn't intending on pulling out a weapon and trying to kill one of them? I don't agree with them beating the shit out of him, but I don't blame them for forcefully getting him out of the vehicle. They should have just arrested him and tossed him into jail. The beating was overboard IMO.

The camera was not antagonizing. The way he was acting was. Cops here are fully aware of the citizens rights to film them in almost any situation without the legal worry of being arrested. Do people still get arrested and never charged though? Yes.

i wouldn't hesitate to leave a cbp face down taking a dirt nap if i ever caught one out in the monte

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Originally posted by Zild all i hear is a sheep making a lot of baaaaaahhhh sounds sheep the whole lot of you fucks

I have been in situations where I should refuse to answer the questions, but financially it made no sense. My car was out of registration and they could have impounded.

its different for you though you're white and your friends aren't coyotes

and i'm sure your best friends brother isn't in prison right now for getting rolled over on by a corrupt CBP agent

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Originally posted by Zild its different for you though you're white and your friends aren't coyotes and i'm sure your best friends brother isn't in prison right now for getting rolled over on by a corrupt CBP agent

lol agreed on the racialist aspect, but in SoCal we have some pretty abusive police that think they are the fucking shit. Especially in a select few neighborhoods where they will pull you over for driving a beater. You broke no laws, but because you drive an old car, you get pulled over.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel lol agreed on the racialist aspect, but in SoCal we have some pretty abusive police that think they are the fucking shit. Especially in a select few neighborhoods where they will pull you over for driving a beater. You broke no laws, but because you drive an old car, you get pulled over.

i've heard about that over there

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Originally posted by Zild i've heard about that over there

Yeah man, it gets pretty bad. Mind you, the areas they do this, are ones that are NOT crime ridden either. Stupid fucking over policed areas.

Fuckin' pastor my ass.

i'm lucky my father is one of the best lawyers in the land because otherwise i'd be in prison for sure

Super LOL at the music

What does it change if hes a pastor or not? They don't deserve any better treatment or respect. Glad he got owned

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht What does it change if hes a pastor or not? They don't deserve any better treatment or respect. Glad he got owned

what matters is he is a US citizen having his rights violated big time

baaaahhhh some more for me sheep

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Originally posted by Zild what matters is he is a US citizen having his rights violated big time baaaahhhh some more for me sheep

How?

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Originally posted by bas How?

Why do we need border patrol INSIDE our borders? That is how.

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Originally posted by bas How?

are you really that dense? he was being illegally detained without probable cause or even being charged with anything. you are only required to stop and say yes/no to being a citizen nothing else

so 4th amendment straight up protects against illegal search and seizure and that right was completely violated not to mention use of excessive force

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Why do we need border patrol INSIDE our borders? That is how.

He wasn't coming across the border from Mexico?

I get that Jake, but the drug dog supposedly smelled something in the car. If he didn't have anything to hide why would he make a big deal about it? He's not doing anything illegal so why does it matter?

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Originally posted by bas He wasn't coming across the border from Mexico? I get that Jake, but the drug dog supposedly smelled something in the car. If he didn't have anything to hide why would he make a big deal about it? He's not doing anything illegal so why does it matter?

they're allowed to have checkpoints anywhere within 150 miles of the border or oceans most major cities are in that area which is pretty much a no constitution zone look it up

and i always refuse searches even if i'm not doing anything illegal because that is my right. if you don't exercise your rights you will lose them

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