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Posted by skot_e on May-22-2009 04:29:

10 TB DVDs

quote:

A BLANK disc that can store two million photos and 100,000 songs will be available within 10 years, Melbourne researchers predict.

The team at Swinburne University of Technology yesterday revealed it had used nanotechnology to record information in five dimensions. Today's discs record in two or three dimensions.

This means DVDs could potentially hold up to 10 terabytes of data -- equal to 10,240 gigabytes, whereas the average disc now can store 4.9 gigabytes.

Dr James Chon, co-author of the research, which will appear in Nature magazine, said the new disc could hold 100,000 songs instead of fewer than 100, and the equivalent of 2000 movies.

Professor Richard Evans, from the CSIRO's Molecular and Health Technologies division, said the technology would first be used in medicine, finance and government sectors.

"Things like medical imaging, with MRIs that generate huge amounts of data, will be where this is introduced first," he said.

The research was conducted by Swinburne University of Technology's centre for Micro-Photonics, supported by a discovery grant from the Australian Research Council.
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By the time this is ready, who's gonna need DVDs? Though the technology would probably be useful.


Posted by Domesticated on May-22-2009 04:33:

Does Australia suck?

I think we have just proven why we do not.


Posted by Domesticated on May-22-2009 04:34:

p.s this article doesn't say that they have already created a 1.5TB disc, so the 10TB thing is not bullshit like a majority of these articles usually are.


Posted by jonSun on May-22-2009 04:41:

This will happen sooner than 10 years.


Posted by nekholm on May-23-2009 07:06:

100 000 songs instead of 100? WTF? 100 songs fit on a CD, idiots.


Posted by Sunsnail on May-23-2009 07:07:

ummmmmmm .flac songs


Posted by itsamemario on May-23-2009 09:09:

look at you up there, in you christmas hat and sunglasses so noone can see your .flacy eyes. shame on you, mr president!


Posted by Rasidel Slika on May-23-2009 10:10:

I read 12TB the other day, not 10.

http://technews.am/conversations/ubergizmo/12tb_dvds_could_be_in_the_works
http://www.technama.com/2009/12tb-storage-disc-demonstrated/


Posted by cmay119 on May-23-2009 15:53:

A standard DVD holds 4.7GB not 4.9. Double-Layer Holds 8.5GB. JonSun is absolutely right as well, should be within the next 5 years, really.

EDIT: Also, I was under the impression data back up via discs were on the way out. Flash media is the future, IMO. Though, movies I suppose will still be disc based.


Posted by flavdave on May-23-2009 16:49:

I'd rather have 10 TB DVDs than Ton TB DVDs.

FUTURE SOUNDS...MAGIK!


Posted by the_voice on May-23-2009 17:20:

wo


Posted by jonSun on May-23-2009 17:34:

quote:
Originally posted by cmay119


EDIT: Also, I was under the impression data back up via discs were on the way out. Flash media is the future, IMO. Though, movies I suppose will still be disc based.


Thats what I thought too. Disk based storage was on the way out & flash drive type storage was the way things were going. Less moving parts for data storage.


Posted by Rasidel Slika on May-23-2009 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by cmay119
A standard DVD holds 4.7GB not 4.9. Double-Layer Holds 8.5GB. JonSun is absolutely right as well, should be within the next 5 years, really.

EDIT: Also, I was under the impression data back up via discs were on the way out. Flash media is the future, IMO. Though, movies I suppose will still be disc based.

Im under the impression that disc-based backup is more reliable and longer-lasting than Flash.. I know Ive had more than a few flash-based gadgets fail - namely flash drives - meanwhile my DVD's are fucking tanks.

If I had to choose where to back up 4.5GB of data right now, I'll choose a DVD every time. Flash-based media seems to be a temporary thing, for easier access. And again, it also seems volatile. For archiving, I see disk-based here to stay.


Posted by cmay119 on May-23-2009 19:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Rasidel Slika
Im under the impression that disc-based backup is more reliable and longer-lasting than Flash.. I know Ive had more than a few flash-based gadgets fail - namely flash drives - meanwhile my DVD's are fucking tanks.

If I had to choose where to back up 4.5GB of data right now, I'll choose a DVD every time. Flash-based media seems to be a temporary thing, for easier access. And again, it also seems volatile. For archiving, I see disk-based here to stay.


You could be right. Time will tell, I suppose. However, Flash media has come a long way since it's inception, and flash based products still are being improved upon.

Though we're already seeing the switch... Most people don't listen to CD's anymore, it's all on ipods and other MP3 players, which are mostly flash memory based. Even HDD's in computers are going the way of flash memory. Sold-State Disk Drives in the coming years will be quite affordable and will then be the norm.

It's a thing of speed as well. Mechanical moving parts make magnetic/optical disk drives slower than that of an electrical component when it comes to read/write capabilities.

Though, I understand the argument of volatility. There's still the possibility of data loss when talking about CD's or Magnetic Disk drives. Scratch the CD up too much, and you're SOL. Magnetic Disk drives still suffer from head-crashes and other mechanical failures as well.

With Flash based media, It'd be an easy thing to incorporate redundancy to prevent data loss.

Just my 2 cents on this.


Posted by Rasidel Slika on May-23-2009 19:36:

Agree with everything you said. Definitely agree that redundancy along with error-checking / notification would be (and already is) a glorious way to combat failure.

In terms of easy access, I agree the answer is not disc-based. But I think we are talking about 2 roles thereof, access and storage. For storage, which these DVD's would primarily be for, I think they are desirable, relevant, and here to stay. But, you would also be able to view said storage from the media directly, much like you can view DVD movies today.

And, I'm glad they are moving into 12TB, how great will it be to have ~240 full-quality movies on one disc (assuming the current maximum of 50GB per movie). Of course, this is thinking "inside the box". I'm sure this will open the door to many more space-hog type of application / utility.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on May-23-2009 20:05:

What about a hard drive? any advances in that?


Posted by Rasidel Slika on May-23-2009 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
What about a hard drive? any advances in that?

reliability has definitely gone up over the years with new technology - as for the future, I think SSD's will take over.


Posted by Sunsnail on May-23-2009 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
What about a hard drive? any advances in that?


Nope.


Posted by cmay119 on May-23-2009 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
What about a hard drive? any advances in that?




Though viral marketing from Samsung, I thought this video was relevant to the conversation (and in particular your question).

EDIT: Note that 24 of the SSD's used in this video would cost someone at retail about $20,000+ USD. So, obviously not a cost effective solution, yet. In a couple years though, this could be quite affordable.


Posted by cmay119 on May-23-2009 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Rasidel Slika
Agree with everything you said. Definitely agree that redundancy along with error-checking / notification would be (and already is) a glorious way to combat failure.

In terms of easy access, I agree the answer is not disc-based. But I think we are talking about 2 roles thereof, access and storage. For storage, which these DVD's would primarily be for, I think they are desirable, relevant, and here to stay. But, you would also be able to view said storage from the media directly, much like you can view DVD movies today.

And, I'm glad they are moving into 12TB, how great will it be to have ~240 full-quality movies on one disc (assuming the current maximum of 50GB per movie). Of course, this is thinking "inside the box". I'm sure this will open the door to many more space-hog type of application / utility.


Agreed. There's definitely enough room in the world for both formats to coexist.


Posted by Rasidel Slika on May-23-2009 20:40:

cool vid, I could get used to that kind of firepower


Posted by noikeee on May-23-2009 20:45:

Honestly, I think a 10TB DVD-like disk is overkill, unless you want to store your entire collection of 1080p movies.


Posted by Sunsnail on May-23-2009 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by noikeee
Honestly, I think a 10TB DVD-like disk is overkill, unless you want to store your entire collection of 1080p movies.


well sure, but eventually movies are gonna be like 10000p


Posted by Rasidel Slika on May-23-2009 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by noikeee
Honestly, I think a 10TB DVD-like disk is overkill, unless you want to store your entire collection of 1080p movies.

having flashbacks to when people wondered what on earth you would save on a 4.5GB dvd...


Posted by cmay119 on May-23-2009 20:55:

quote:
640K ought to be enough for anybody
- Bill Gates


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