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Posted by EddieZilker on May-28-2009 22:43:

My First Full-Length Album

Music for a Nervous Night by DeepEddieZilker


EDIT: meriter's Remaster
quote:
Originally posted by meriter


So, I'm doing some house-keeping on my computer and the net and migrating a bunch of stuff over from former file hosts to Soundcloud and thought I'd put up this full-length, mixed album I produced and released back in 2008. All of the production work is mine and music (except where otherwise noted) is also mine.

A few people here have already heard it. Most everyone who has, has had generally good things to say about it.

FWIW, I felt it disingenuous to put it in the DJ promotion forum since this was basically produced entirely in my DAW. Regardless, I hope you guys enjoy it.

Feel free to comment.

NOTE: Also, if you like what meriter did with my tunes, you'll love what he's done with his. SMOOOOOTH!


Posted by meriter on May-28-2009 22:52:

Listening now. What is this player you're using? That's pretty slick.


Posted by EddieZilker on May-28-2009 23:07:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
Listening now. What is this player you're using? That's pretty slick.


Soundcloud.com - It's freaking awesome!


Posted by meriter on May-29-2009 00:23:

I just finished listening.. this is good stuff! The overall sound quality is suffering though, I don't know if that's from the encoding or what. It sounds like it was mixed on a system that's really heavy on the highs. There's not much going on in the low end either. What kind of setup are you using?


Posted by EddieZilker on May-29-2009 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
I just finished listening.. this is good stuff! The overall sound quality is suffering though, I don't know if that's from the encoding or what. It sounds like it was mixed on a system that's really heavy on the highs. There's not much going on in the low end either. What kind of setup are you using?


It's the same as I'm using, currently. Cakewalk Project 5. It's a little light on the bass and I may re-master it, at some point, as it was done a long time ago and I'm learning a hell of a lot more than I knew back when it was first released.

It may be the encoding on the stream (128kbits tends to be harsh), but I suspect some of that could be alleviated in the future.


Posted by BshidoHEAT on May-31-2009 20:47:

Great stuff Eddie I would like to get a sort of .cue for this if you got one on ya!


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-03-2009 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by BshidoHEAT
Great stuff Eddie I would like to get a sort of .cue for this if you got one on ya!


Music for a Nervous Night - Part List

* Act I - The Road
* Part 1 - First Step Out (Mirical Mile Intro Mix)
* Part 2 - Deep Blue
* Part 3 - First Step Out (Maximalist Mix)
* Act II - A Drop in the Bucket
* Part 4 - Delay of the Chime (Delay of the Dub Mix)
* Part 5 - Summertime (by George Gershwin) Remix by Deep EZ
* Act III - A Splinter in the Mind's Eye
* Part 6 - 2501 (Inspired by Ghost in the Shell)
* Part 7 - Delay of the Chime - Words by Abby Brown - Music and vocal by Deep EZ
* __________________________
* All music, except where otherwise noted, written and produced by Deep Eddie Zilker.

All cue points correlate with notation made through the soundcloud player.

Glad you like it!


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-03-2009 19:48:

Sounds pretty nice on a skim-through, but you really ought to re-do the mixing on all of the tracks. The muddiness and lack of high-end detract from the music, I think.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-03-2009 19:55:

Dunno

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
I just finished listening.. this is good stuff! The overall sound quality is suffering though, I don't know if that's from the encoding or what. It sounds like it was mixed on a system that's really heavy on the highs. There's not much going on in the low end either. What kind of setup are you using?


quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Sounds pretty nice on a skim-through, but you really ought to re-do the mixing on all of the tracks. The muddiness and lack of high-end detract from the music, I think.


GAH!

Between the two of you, this mix ought to be perfectly balanced!

But thanks. FWIW, I'm currently toying with a remaster.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-03-2009 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
GAH!

Between the two of you, this mix ought to be perfectly balanced!

I'm pretty sure we agree, actually. meriter said it sounded like you used a system that was heavy on the highs, i.e. you used a system where the highs were loud and overcompensated by turning them down too much. At least, I think that's what he meant.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-03-2009 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I'm pretty sure we agree, actually. meriter said it sounded like you used a system that was heavy on the highs, i.e. you used a system where the highs were loud and overcompensated by turning them down too much. At least, I think that's what he meant.


That's a good possibility. Regardless of disparity or congruence - neither are what I was hoping for.


Posted by meriter on Jun-03-2009 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I'm pretty sure we agree, actually. meriter said it sounded like you used a system that was heavy on the highs, i.e. you used a system where the highs were loud and overcompensated by turning them down too much. At least, I think that's what he meant.


Yes that's what I meant. If you wanted I could master this for you in no time. It wouldn't really take much and I'd be happy to do it...


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-03-2009 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
Yes that's what I meant. If you wanted I could master this for you in no time. It wouldn't really take much and I'd be happy to do it...


What do you need, as far as source material? Honestly, I think a new set of ears would do nicely and it would definitely be as interesting, for me, as it would be appreciated.


Posted by cybernetica on Jun-03-2009 21:43:

Its quite nice at a first quick listen.

The first track is lacking bass, I like the atmospheric and trippy effects.

Second track is better, liking all those phasored wowing sounds. The track has a very nice progression, and the beat is nice. 16.00 is awesome.

Again I agree with the others, the highs are too dominant.

the track at 30.00 got some nice pianos, but the sound is honestly a mess. The track got huge potential arrangement-wise, so you should try to use it

44.00 is much better. Nice bassline, also the sound is much cleaner than in the previous songs.

I'm liking how the album evolves towards the end.

Despite all the criticism about the sound, I got to mention that in terms of cohesion this is really a great album. It was a wise decision to mix the album because the stuff flows so well. I've heard some albums by professional producers or mix sets by known DJs that tell no story at all.

Thanks for sharing, always happy to hear full albums!


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-03-2009 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by cybernetica
Its quite nice at a first quick listen.

The first track is lacking bass, I like the atmospheric and trippy effects.

Second track is better, liking all those phasored wowing sounds. The track has a very nice progression, and the beat is nice. 16.00 is awesome.

Again I agree with the others, the highs are too dominant.

the track at 30.00 got some nice pianos, but the sound is honestly a mess. The track got huge potential arrangement-wise, so you should try to use it

44.00 is much better. Nice bassline, also the sound is much cleaner than in the previous songs.

I'm liking how the album evolves towards the end.

Despite all the criticism about the sound, I got to mention that in terms of cohesion this is really a great album. It was a wise decision to mix the album because the stuff flows so well. I've heard some albums by professional producers or mix sets by known DJs that tell no story at all.

Thanks for sharing, always happy to hear full albums!


Hey, thanks for the kudos and the feedback on the mix.

One of the benefits to working it out in the sequencer was that I got to take those certain elements out of whole mixes and loop them to create that cohesion you referred to. It literally became turning two songs into a third, in parts. That, unfortunately, was also one of the draw-backs.

The system I'm on, currently, is ghetto Pentium 4, stock-sound-card with only the benefit (at the time it was finalized) of Altec Lansing computer speakers and sub, in my bedroom. For what I was able to achieve, it was great, but I've learned a hell of a lot since then and, even with the same system, there are definitely some things I'd do differently.


Posted by meriter on Jun-04-2009 03:17:

Alright... I wasn't able to spend as much time on this as I wanted because one of my monitors is crapping out on me. It shuts off whenever it wants. It's under warranty and I'm taking it in soon. But I think the mix sounds a lot better. I boosted the highs and enhanced the stereo imaging... also smoothed it out a little bit and did what I could with the bass. I wanted to preserve as much dynamic as possible so I didn't crush it with the limiter... as a result it's kinda on the quiet side, but sounds pretty good. I wanted to EQ each track individually but I'm not able to take on a project like that with a crap monitor. I put a blanket EQ on the whole thing and hoped for the best.





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Posted by Domesticated on Jun-04-2009 04:23:

quote:
Originally posted by cybernetica
Again I agree with the others, the highs are too dominant.


If you think that then you'd be disagreeing with the others.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-04-2009 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
Alright... I wasn't able to spend as much time on this as I wanted because one of my monitors is crapping out on me. It shuts off whenever it wants. It's under warranty and I'm taking it in soon. But I think the mix sounds a lot better. I boosted the highs and enhanced the stereo imaging... also smoothed it out a little bit and did what I could with the bass. I wanted to preserve as much dynamic as possible so I didn't crush it with the limiter... as a result it's kinda on the quiet side, but sounds pretty good. I wanted to EQ each track individually but I'm not able to take on a project like that with a crap monitor. I put a blanket EQ on the whole thing and hoped for the best.



Not bad. I'm actually impressed with what was accomplished with the source material you utilized in addition to the equipment problems you were having. You managed to cut a lot of the mid-range noise that I think I may have grown a little too used to. I'm a little astonished at how bad that was. All of the instrumentation is nice and clear, too. A tailored approach you were discussing, where-by you approach each track, individually, may have allowed for a bit more precision but the EQ blanket really did the track more justice than I expected.

If I decide to pursue a remastering from the source material, this will definitely, definitely be used as a reference bench-mark. At this point, however, such a pursuit may be superfluous.

Thank you, very much!


Posted by archaudio on Jun-06-2009 00:34:

Good fluid mix man. Good chill set. I love how this player works. It IS Freakin' awesome.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-06-2009 13:38:

Thanks, archaudio.

Glad you like it.


Posted by meriter on Jun-06-2009 14:35:

I would love to see the track that starts around 27:00 to be redone. Really good stuff.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-06-2009 16:51:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
I would love to see the track that starts around 27:00 to be redone. Really good stuff.


That's one of my favorites, too. I actually made that out of clips from the last song's dub, that I spliced together and then added a bass-line and drum backing too, within the source file for the whole mix. I actually am thinking of pulling that out and doing a re-work, anyways. You pretty much validated the proof of concept for that.

Thanks.



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