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addiction/recovery and safe clubbing

Just curious if there is anyone out there who has dealt with addiction to drugs and/or alcohol and after a process of recovery, continued to go to clubs and parties to see and hear djs. I'm talking about serious addiction problem, not just getting drunk a bit too often or going off the deep-end a few too many times. I'm talking about addiction in the sense that you went to rehab or went through a period of serious self-recovery in which your only safe option is permanent abstinence and going to clubs is considered "risky" because of the triggers.

I'm curious about what people's experiences were/are for themselves or others they may know who has suffered from addiction, yet manage to have a great time dancing and enjoying music clean and sober. I realize there are many many people out there who have a great time and never drink or drug to begin with, but I'm specifically curious about people recovering or are recovered from serious addiction problems.

get tubularbills to post in this thread. he's got some serious history of alcohol abuse. the guy must have had a six pack of beer every 14 days. mad crazy

edit: he just did

to be fair, my situation was not as bad as some of the other addicts who were in my "rehab". my abuse of alcohol was really an addition to depression; not just an entity in its own. that and i just wanted to celebrate as much as i could before i left town. that, coupled with not really caring about much else except drinking, led me to get in pretty bad shape, especially at work.

i've been sober for over 5 months now. i've gone out to bars a few times, but just drank red-bull or nothing at all. it doesn't bother me to see others drink. and quite honestly, if i had one, i wouldn't be down the same path as i was. had i kept going like that for a few more months, its possible things could have gotten even more out of hand.

Do be honest people shouldn't look down at alcohol addicts like they aren't real addicts. Real alcohol addiction is nasty, and it kills more people than any other drug in our society.

fuck it i can only pick up girls when im drunk.. i just have no shame in slapping their asses and getting slapped back in the face

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oh wait.. thats not picking up though.

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Originally posted by Zild Do be honest people shouldn't look down at alcohol addicts like they aren't real addicts. Real alcohol addiction is nasty, and it kills more people than any other drug in our society.

Not only can someone die in the obvious way from alcohol, such as accidents/trauma situations, but the withdrawal from heavy addiction can cause a serious syndrome that can manifest as siezures or cardiac arrest. I've seen it in my work at the hospital. Basically the alcohol causes a down-regulation of neurotransmitters, and when the alcohol is no longer there, the body is compensating with a massive up-regulation of the same stuff. This is how to identify physical dependance to alcohol: when you start to feel a need to drink in order to relax.

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Originally posted by Zild Do be honest people shouldn't look down at alcohol addicts like they aren't real addicts. Real alcohol addiction is nasty, and it kills more people than any other drug in our society.

Absolutely true. I know many people who have alcoholic fathers, or members of their family who are alcoholics, and it's one of the biggest destroyers of families in existence. People who drink to cope with problems just end up causing more of them. I know first hand, alcoholism is nothing to joke about, and it can ruin people's lives.

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Originally posted by ziptnf Absolutely true. I know many people who have alcoholic fathers, or members of their family who are alcoholics, and it's one of the biggest destroyers of families in existence. People who drink to cope with problems just end up causing more of them. I know first hand, alcoholism is nothing to joke about, and it can ruin people's lives.

Can i make a joke about it?

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Originally posted by nchs09 Can i make a joke about it?

As long as it offends tbills

i don't really think people who party every weekend are addicted to drugs. it's more like they are addicted to fun.


if you're sitting home smacking up by yourself then yea...time for rehab. but if you're out every weekend dancing and going to parties and snorting coke and eating pills/drinking, you're just havin a good time and it should run its course and fade out as you get older. i mean that's what is supposed to happen. lol

i still go out from time to time and i'm 27. i hate going out though, you'll always hear me bitching about paying $14 for a rum n coke. i'm like a grumpy old jew man. but then after a few drinks i let it go and have a good time

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Originally posted by Slylee i don't really think people who party every weekend are addicted to drugs. it's more like they are addicted to fun!

that was the dumbest thing ive ever read on ta


addiction is a pattern, just like some people say "oh im not addicted to smoking i only have one smoke a day"

but you have that one smoke a day and need it, so there is an addiction. sure you can "quit at anytime" and not smoke that cigg for the one day, but the truth is as long as your having that one a day you are addicted. Same with soing drugs only on weekends. sure its not a full blown addictionwhere u need it every minute, but your addicted to it because you need it on the weekend.

addicted to fun lol. ur fuckin vag is addicted to fun

lol aww see? you DO take shit personal

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Originally posted by Slylee i don't really think people who party every weekend are addicted to drugs. it's more like they are addicted to fun.

i have to agree with vivid boy on this, that really is kinda wrong. that was my mindset, i didn't think i was abusing alcohol or anything just because i was going out every weekend. and i was still an ace during my class (graduated with a 93%). but this "weekend warrior" is that starting/beginning phase of abuse/addiction.

the whole stereotype that people who abuse/addicited to alcohol are the ones who drink in their closet and have bottles stashed all around their house, is along the same lines as the stereotype that you can only get raped by that stranger in the dark who stalks you as you walk home from a party alone.

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Originally posted by ziptnf As long as it offends tbills

lol

there's a huge difference between someone who clubs/parties every weekend and drinks and does blow and then someone who literally sits in their home and blows all their money on drugs just to get fucked up alone in the livingroom. i mean eric admits to doing blow and being a loser (or less of one) in his early 20s. he should know what i'm talking about if anything.

but yea there are also lots of people who party every weekend and they are REALLY crackheads....like you can tell they have a major problem with drugs. i'm sure it's a little of both in that whole scene. i was just talking about the people who got all their partying out of their system and have matured now and clubbing isn't important any more, nor are the drugs. that's kinda where i stand.

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Originally posted by Slylee i was just talking about the people who got all their partying out of their system and have matured now and clubbing isn't important any more, nor are the drugs. that's kinda where i stand.

ok that makes more sense now.

however, i must digress, that addiction is addiction. you can have the same consequences in varies aspects of life by going out and drinking until you blackout; or staying in and drinking until you blackout.

and the reason why i mentioned that is because the thread starter made it sound all serious like, "ADDICTION/RECOVERY from clubbing"

which makes sense....if you've really gone down hill to the point where you ended up in rehab/therapy/etc... chances are you can't go back to a club environment and not have a drink/do drugs. because the mentality of "oh, i'll just have one" leads to "holy fuck where am i and why am i in someone else's clothes ".

this isn't always the case; but a valid one no less.

but what im saying jamie is whether or not your doing it every day or just on weekends, its a cycle. you do it every weekend. so by definition it is still an addiction. maybe not a hardcore addiction, but still an addiction.

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Originally posted by tubularbills which makes sense....if you've really gone down hill to the point where you ended up in rehab/therapy/etc... chances are you can't go back to a club environment and not have a drink/do drugs. because the mentality of "oh, i'll just have one" leads to "holy fuck where am i and why am i in someone else's clothes ". this isn't always the case; but a valid one no less.

but relapsing doesnt mean all of a sudden you do one hit and 10 mins later you did 100 hits. it could mean you did one hit and now your back to doing it every weekend again.

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Originally posted by tubularbills which makes sense....if you've really gone down hill to the point where you ended up in rehab/therapy/etc... chances are you can't go back to a club environment and not have a drink/do drugs. because the mentality of "oh, i'll just have one" leads to "holy fuck where am i and why am i in someone else's clothes ". this isn't always the case; but a valid one no less.

yea actually there was this guy that would always randomly show up at afterparties we were at and be that one dude that was ready to kill someone for a bump of coke it was such a buzz kill. like relax dude, just go do a shot you'll feel better

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy but relapsing doesnt mean all of a sudden you do one hit and 10 mins later you did 100 hits. it could mean you did one hit and now your back to doing it every weekend again.

right; which is why i said that wasn't the only case.

however, if you were getting in trouble and having problems/consequences in life because of your weekend drinking; you can have that same situation pop right back up if you choose to start up again.

"oh, i'll just drink on friday night" can lead to "omg its monday morning and i'm late for work and still drunk and can't remember anything"

again, crude example; but it IS possible

by the way i want to throw this out there before i take off for soccer. This is the first thread in like a half of a year, slylee and I have posted 4 posts without ripping on one another. progress!

whatever i hope you get kicked in the balls at soccer.

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