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Posted by HardTranceProd on Jun-01-2009 01:14:

Sales Numbers for Tracks

Hi, does anyone know how many MP3's are sold in online stores like Juno, iTunes, Beatport?

What's a good number, in general? What are some numbers for famous, less-famous, and obscure artists and genres?

Just want a ballpark idea from someone who's familiar with business. Thanks.


Posted by LoveHate on Jun-01-2009 01:20:

deadmau5's not exactly sold 30,000


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jun-01-2009 01:34:

Twelfty.


Posted by HardTranceProd on Jun-01-2009 01:50:

why is it so difficult to get a simple answer?

so many losers with nothing to do in their lives...


Posted by Subtle on Jun-01-2009 01:55:

quote:
Originally posted by LoveHate
deadmau5's not exactly sold 30,000
not exactly


Posted by DJ_Lord on Jun-01-2009 02:59:

i would say generally artists receive 30-40% of online sales.

based on that the average income for a dj/producer i think it's between 4000-5000 a month.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-01-2009 03:10:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
based on that the average income for a dj/producer i think it's between 4000-5000 a month.

LOL!


Posted by jupiterone on Jun-01-2009 04:32:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
LOL!


dude do you know how balling our analog collection would be if that were true. holy shit, i wouldn't have to work a 2nd job, or a job at all


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-01-2009 05:00:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
dude do you know how balling our analog collection would be if that were true. holy shit, i wouldn't have to work a 2nd job, or a job at all

Jupiter 8 and Andromeda here I come...


Posted by jupiterone on Jun-01-2009 05:09:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Jupiter 8 and Andromeda here I come...


helllll naw, buchla



Posted by DJ_Lord on Jun-01-2009 05:11:

no offense but i believe u guys are in the lower end of the spectrum, for now. im sure u will both "make it" in the future.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-01-2009 05:12:

Hey, you said "average," not "top end."


Posted by jupiterone on Jun-01-2009 05:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
no offense but i believe u guys are in the lower end of the spectrum, for now. im sure u will both "make it" in the future.


unless you're talking about the likes of deadmau5/trentemoller


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-01-2009 05:14:

My studio would look like Legowelt's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SLkomESDWk

Or Robert Babicz's:

http://www.vimeo.com/808485?pg=embed&sec=808485


Posted by jupiterone on Jun-01-2009 05:22:

both are nice, soulwax has a nice studio too, especially their vintage mixer

also, check out the macbeth m5n, it's actually a rather 'affordable' modular analog synth, reminds me a lot of doepfer


Posted by Domesticated on Jun-01-2009 05:36:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Or Robert Babicz's:

http://www.vimeo.com/808485?pg=embed&sec=808485


Awesome interview. Thanks for posting.

I'd forgotten what a fat geek he is.

He makes great music though; can't deny that.


Posted by Chimney on Jun-01-2009 06:52:

I'd love to see more of Holden's studio. There were a couple of pictures on his website and it looked sick.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-01-2009 07:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
I'd love to see more of Holden's studio. There were a couple of pictures on his website and it looked sick.

http://www.facethemusik.net/2008/11...10-studio-toys/


Posted by a98 on Jun-01-2009 07:50:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
i would say generally artists receive 30-40% of online sales.
based on that the average income for a dj/producer i think it's between 4000-5000 a month.


i don't know if this was a joke, but this is so not true. excluding the mainstream/pop side of things i would say only the biggest house artists make this amount, i doubt many of the big trance artists even make this much with their tracks. house seems to sell a lot better, but i'm sure even there for every top selling track there's thousands of tracks that don't sell anything.

in trance i think over 75% of artists only sell 10-250 copies, which results an income between 5-125 euros. so unless you make a hit track every month or about 15-20 non-hit tracks, there's not really any way you can make a living with producing only.


Posted by Halcyon on Jun-01-2009 17:39:

I guess most of the income comes from gigs you play at once you're known for the tracks you produce.


Posted by creon444 on Jun-01-2009 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Robert Babicz's:

http://www.vimeo.com/808485?pg=embed&sec=808485


Those lengthy closeups of his mug were... rather unnecessary. And just downright fucking disturbing also.


Posted by aNYthing on Jun-02-2009 05:15:

quote:
Originally posted by a98
i don't know if this was a joke, but this is so not true. excluding the mainstream/pop side of things i would say only the biggest house artists make this amount, i doubt many of the big trance artists even make this much with their tracks. house seems to sell a lot better, but i'm sure even there for every top selling track there's thousands of tracks that don't sell anything.

in trance i think over 75% of artists only sell 10-250 copies, which results an income between 5-125 euros. so unless you make a hit track every month or about 15-20 non-hit tracks, there's not really any way you can make a living with producing only.


I think once you start pumping out hits more and more peeps may take interest in your previous work or subsequent efforts, therefore possibly exponentially increasing your earning power... unless all your collection is easily accessible from torrentz.

I read that in today's environment artists don't really make crap on track sales - it's the concerts/gigs/commercial use that are revenue generators. Now, if you're a big star, it's a different deal. But for your average indie / small-timer you best hang on to your day job.
Heck, last NIN album was given for free online (even in super hi-def). I'm sure Trent can afford to do something like this but still... the model is changing, RIAA is a dying beast and it knows it - that's why you see last gasps of desparate animal. Overall, I think entire model is flawed but hey.. considering one can potentially steal a soft synth online and make a track on relatively cheap computer - cheapens the whole experience, therefore piping out revenue to virtually 0. Unless you have a cross-genre mass appeal for example - previously unknown "One Republic" became an overnight sensation after Timbaland moaned "Eh eh eh" on their mediocre track. The rest is history.

/senseless rant


Posted by Leon on Jun-02-2009 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Awesome interview. Thanks for posting.

I'd forgotten what a fat geek he is.

He makes great music though; can't deny that.



yoooooo this is increidble.. i love these interviews
it takes me a step out of my bedroom for a bit. i wish i had a badass studio and knowledge to match what a beast


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-02-2009 05:43:

I will some day.


Posted by Leon on Jun-02-2009 05:44:

wheres your myspace link!


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