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Posted by gehzumteufel on Jun-03-2009 23:49:

Government mandated sterilization

Do you believe in the forced sterilization of people that are totally unfit to birth and care for children?

I do. Homeless, drug addicts, the mentally retarded, and the likes should be imho.

discuss.

Posted by Cpt.Cocaine on Jun-03-2009 23:52:

Why not just have them taken out back and shot?

Posted by gehzumteufel on Jun-03-2009 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine
Why not just have them taken out back and shot?

Hey, whatever works, but at least keep the fuckers from reproducing.

Posted by elFreak on Jun-03-2009 23:56:

sounds unconstitutional but yeah i would do it for sure.

Posted by gehzumteufel on Jun-03-2009 23:57:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
sounds unconstitutional but yeah i would do it for sure.

I am sure we can circumvent the constitution by adding a constitutional amendment.

Posted by Krypton on Jun-03-2009 23:58:

Posted by elFreak on Jun-03-2009 23:59:

as long as bob barker is the spokesperson for this campaign i am in.

Posted by Cpt.Cocaine on Jun-03-2009 23:59:

Yes, this should be a good final solution to all of the world's problems!

Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-03-2009 23:59:

you do realize that is just one step away from eugenics

i think if a person is disabled they should be able to have kids depending on their disability. These days we have genetic screening to detect defects and probability. Lets say its a recessive gene and the other partner doesnt have it then why not let them reproduce.

No one should be force steralized

drug addicts can recover
Homeless can recover. Some homeless used to be multimillionairs that lost it all. They just need help

So i disagree with your philosophy hitler

edit just kidding about that hitler shit haha

Posted by elFreak on Jun-04-2009 00:02:

hey at least we will no longer have to watch shows on TLC about midgets with money.

also jew made this thread: irony at its finest

Posted by Omega_Blue on Jun-04-2009 00:02:

not at all, totally infringes on our rights.

Posted by Arbiter on Jun-04-2009 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine
Why not just have them taken out back and shot?

No need to get our hands dirty; all we need to do is increase the selective pressure of these peoples' environment. That way they will fail to reproduce in the proper, natural way: by dying before they get to that point.

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-04-2009 00:37:

If you endorse the general principle that government has the right to sterilize people, then when somebody else comes into power you or people you like might come up for sterilization. When you make a law, you set a precedent for people to make that general kind of law.

Posted by The17sss on Jun-04-2009 02:46:

Re: Government mandated sterilization

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Do you believe in the forced sterilization of people that are totally unfit to birth and care for children?

The poster boy for that idea is right here:

Desmond Hatchett. 29 years old. 21 kids with at least 13 women. Had 4 kids in a single year TWICE. Works a minimum wage job. Pays about $1.98 per month in child support to each woman after the scraps are sorted out.

SNIP FUCKING SNIP!

Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-04-2009 02:51:

I believe that anyone who demonstrates the capacity or will to hold unto one or more people a campaign which would deprive them of their reproductive rights ought to be sterilized immediately!

Posted by Domesticated on Jun-04-2009 02:52:

Re: Government mandated sterilization

Posted by Darkarbiter on Jun-04-2009 03:15:

I agree that is a pretty terrible thing... however there are some pretty extreme cases.

How about a 4 kid limit imposed upon certain people?

Posted by idoru on Jun-04-2009 06:31:

While I do agree that many people are unfit to be parents, it just feels wrong to me to impose outright bans on certain people reproducing.

Who are we to judge that somebody will be unfit to raise a child, and who are we to say that they will? I can sit here and say, "Hey, Ben seems like he'd make a great dad," when in fact he may ultimately, for one reason or another, turn out to utterly ruin the child's life. You'd still be allowing for a huge number of potential fuck-ups.

Who are we to say, as previously said in this thread, that all homeless and drug addicts should be sterilized? What, people can't get back on their feet? Once homeless, always homeless? Once a drug addict, always a drug addict? Fuck, Ben, you can't be serious, can you?

Maybe, maybe I can see a case-by-case basis being implemented, but no. Bullshit. I'm sorry, but as much as I like to sit back and complain about how many horrible parents there are, there's absolutely no way to judge who will or won't be a good parent. You could be in the shittiest situation yet still raise a successful child.

I mean, fuck, look at Chris Gardner (the guy Will Smith played in The Pursuit of Happyness). He had custody of his child while he was homeless, living out of church shelters and, of all things, subway bathrooms. Where is he now? CEO with a net worth of $165 million and a son who, when asked about homelessness during his childhood, responds, "I couldn't tell you that we were homeless, I just knew that we were always having to go. So, if anything, I remember us just moving, always moving." Would you have agreed to allow him to be fertile if you knew him when he was homeless and completely down on his luck?

I'm sorry, but to allow others to pass such a broad, sweeping judgment upon someone else is completely asinine.

Posted by elFreak on Jun-04-2009 06:33:

if i reproduce will you babysit jake?

i promise they won't eat furniture so long as it not lower than knee level.

Posted by Armitage on Jun-04-2009 06:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
you do realize that is just one step away from eugenics

actually i think it's zero steps away from eugenics.

Posted by idoru on Jun-04-2009 06:34:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
if i reproduce will you babysit jake?

i promise they won't eat furniture so long as it not lower than knee level.

Anything for you, Jay.

Posted by we_R_DNA on Jun-04-2009 06:47:

Re: Government mandated sterilization

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Do you believe in the forced sterilization of people that are totally unfit to birth and care for children?

I do. Homeless, drug addicts, the mentally retarded, and the likes should be imho.

discuss.

I believe in the freedom of the people for the people and for you to come up here preaching this eugenics pisses me off. . .

So while we are making rules of law as to what may fancy our idealistic dreams I'll begin:

The rule goes as is if there is anyone who seeks to have another person sterilized that person who saught the sterilization will be sterilized.

The sword we wield is double edged and I just used it against you.

Discuss!

Posted by elFreak on Jun-04-2009 06:48:

http://www.myspace.com/thermionicemissions

start by you, you have less friends than agq.

Posted by we_R_DNA on Jun-04-2009 06:53:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
http://www.myspace.com/thermionicemissions

start by you, you have less friends than agq.

Oh How amazing you make judgments off of myspace websites LOL

Posted by Joss Weatherby on Jun-04-2009 06:56:

To quote a Steve Martin movie with a line delivered by the most bodacious Keanu Reeves...

quote:
You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.

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