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Posted by shotcolin' on Jun-04-2009 22:17:

electro/nu-disco/ghettotech/emotronic

So down here in SD we are having a huge growth in these genres of electronic music everywhere from the big clubs to the smallest dive-bars. Most of the people into to these genres are generally hipster/emo (i said most, not all so dont get offended). I like the fact that these kids are finally warming up to electronic music, but the shit they choose to listen to is just awful (in my opinion). Any of you guys have any thoughts/comments/feelings about this and is this happening anywhere else?

FYI: for those of you who dont know what emotronic is: the combining of Emo with electronic music. Artsy, indie, electro music.


Posted by DJames1 on Jun-04-2009 23:14:

I'm not really up on stereotypes, but aren't hipster and emo very different things? I thought hipsters lack emotion and just act laid back, whereas emo are overly emotional.

Anyways, when I think of nu-disco, I think of SebastiAn and slammin french electro house. Whatever converts people off Britney is fine by me.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-04-2009 23:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DJames1
I'm not really up on stereotypes, but aren't hipster and emo very different things? I thought hipsters lack emotion and just act laid back, whereas emo are overly emotional.

They get stuck together since both the popular stereotypes involve guys with long hair and a thing for independent music. But emos wear more eye-shadow and cry more often or something, I guess. The stereotype for "emo" in particular has become ridiculously broad; I've seen people refer to Linkin Park as "emo."


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jun-04-2009 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I've seen people refer to Linkin Park as "emo."

Well, you know...

These wounds, they will not heal.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-04-2009 23:36:

OP: Do you have any examples of what you would consider "emotronic?"


Posted by jupiterone on Jun-05-2009 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
OP: Do you have any examples of what you would consider "emotronic?"


trance


Posted by tranceCDs on Jun-05-2009 00:27:

ghettotech


Posted by creon444 on Jun-05-2009 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
OP: Do you have any examples of what you would consider "emotronic?"




Posted by SMC on Jun-05-2009 00:37:

Hipsters have better taste in scarfs.


Posted by shotcolin' on Jun-05-2009 00:51:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
OP: Do you have any examples of what you would consider "emotronic?"


http://www.myspace.com/udachi

I agree with you that hipster and emo are 2 different things but down here in san diego, the 2 groups tend to mesh together. These days there are so many subgenres of different styles and cultures, they all tend to overlap each other one way or another...


Posted by woscar on Jun-05-2009 00:53:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
OP: Do you have any examples of what you would consider "emotronic?"


LOL, I can think of some "Indietronic"

Check out the stuff on Ghostly International. Top notch stuff, not really club music, but awesome to listen to at home.


Posted by -FSP- on Jun-05-2009 06:27:

God, hipsters ruin everything.

that is all.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jun-05-2009 07:08:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
They get stuck together since both the popular stereotypes involve guys with long hair and a thing for independent music. But emos wear more eye-shadow and cry more often or something, I guess. The stereotype for "emo" in particular has become ridiculously broad; I've seen people refer to Linkin Park as "emo."


Well linkin park do have some fairly metalcore influenced stuff and stuff in that mood and with those sortof lyrics. So, exception rather then rule really, although I'd argue they are somewhat emo, and emo's did used to like them back in 2001/2002 when people had still actually heard of them.

The emo guy fashion did somewhat come from the indie guy fashion... and uhh indie chicks look nothing like emo chicks so no need for comparison.

Indie aka hipster guys: Fairly long fringes, although never covering the eyes. Black skinny leg jeans although more as in the black denim jeans which are usually less interesting then the one's emo guys wear. Hair often straightened, although not as much as emo guy's hair. Although I guess indie and hipster are slightly different things.

Often wears colours like brown or coldish blues.




Emo guys:
Slightly longer fringes, often covering the eyes. Eyeliner isn't so common these days but it's certainly a lot more common with emo guys than any other males. Skinny leg faded to grey black jeans (which I fail at finding a picture of, I've got plenty, and I know tons of guys who wear them and you see them a lot, but google fails me). Hair allmost allways straightened, and with a very big focus on a large amount of texturing and layers in the hair. Hair often spiked up tons at the back, to an extreme this can create the "peacock" hairstyle.

Emo's hardly ever listen to electro or similar (although some scene chicks are into electro, lets just not go there) so I'd place a fairly high bet the OP was talking about indies/hipsters/bohemians.

Wears a lot of black, as well as colours like really warm reds or purples or aqua. Hair is very often dyed black as well, although some guys keep their hair blonde.



(the person on the left of the above is a chick btw)


Posted by stev�sto on Jun-05-2009 13:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
The emo guy fashion did somewhat come from the indie guy fashion... and uhh indie chicks look nothing like emo chicks so no need for comparison.

Indie aka hipster guys: Fairly long fringes, although never covering the eyes. Black skinny leg jeans although more as in the black denim jeans which are usually less interesting then the one's emo guys wear. Hair often straightened, although not as much as emo guy's hair. Although I guess indie and hipster are slightly different things.

Often wears colours like brown or coldish blues.

Emo guys:
Slightly longer fringes, often covering the eyes. Eyeliner isn't so common these days but it's certainly a lot more common with emo guys than any other males. Skinny leg faded to grey black jeans (which I fail at finding a picture of, I've got plenty, and I know tons of guys who wear them and you see them a lot, but google fails me). Hair allmost allways straightened, and with a very big focus on a large amount of texturing and layers in the hair. Hair often spiked up tons at the back, to an extreme this can create the "peacock" hairstyle.

Emo's hardly ever listen to electro or similar (although some scene chicks are into electro, lets just not go there) so I'd place a fairly high bet the OP was talking about indies/hipsters/bohemians.

Wears a lot of black, as well as colours like really warm reds or purples or aqua. Hair is very often dyed black as well, although some guys keep their hair blonde.


your knowledge is impressive, the force is strong with this one.

in my area, they have clubs that basically play justice/boys noize/smd/mstrkrft but also play obscure 80's indie newwave/goth stuff. the people from both scenes dress similiar and music is actually not that much different so it makes sense.

its always a VDJ playing the music videos to these tracks on multiple projector screens. He will also play the tracks almost in their entireity back to back with slight mixing intros/outros.

anyone else seen this type of club in your town?


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Jun-05-2009 13:54:

I got bored of the Justice/Simian/MSTRKRFT harder tinged electro pretty quickly... but I think that stuff is a bit separate from "nu-disco", which I tend to think of more as the Italo revival (I've seen it referred to as "cosmic disco" in other places) - artists like Tensnake, Ilija Rudman, Sally Shapiro, Aeroplane, Prins Thomas.

No idea what you mean by "emo-tronic", but the emo vocals in trance that was big a few years back totally turned me off the genre.


Posted by supersaw abuse on Jun-05-2009 21:51:

quote:
Originally posted by creon444
[imgs-apop]

not really


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jun-06-2009 00:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
but the emo vocals in trance that was big a few years back totally turned me off the genre.

Anyone want to link a youtube of this? I'm highly skeptical.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-06-2009 00:59:

People use "emo" as a general term for anything that has a lot of raw and whiny emotions on display. This is why Linkin Park gets called "emo."


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jun-06-2009 01:05:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
People use "emo" as a general term for anything that has a lot of raw and whiny emotions on display. This is why Linkin Park gets called "emo."

They do actually have songs with quite an emo mood and a singing style which is close to emo stuff though (and a lot of emo's well used to listen to them).


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-06-2009 01:08:

"I must be emo!":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpaxtkHuZnI


Posted by shotcolin' on Jun-06-2009 02:00:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
"I must be emo!":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpaxtkHuZnI


that's some funny shit


Posted by -FSP- on Jun-06-2009 02:37:

i don't understand why hipsters/bohemians/etc are embracing electronics.

oh wait it's because it's to be ironic. bastards.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jun-06-2009 08:35:

quote:
Originally posted by -FSP-
i don't understand why hipsters/bohemians/etc are embracing electronics.

oh wait it's because it's to be ironic. bastards.

Hipsters have liked electro since the 80s


Posted by LoveHate on Jun-06-2009 09:33:

lmao emos dont listen to nu disco



they listen to paramore.


Posted by shotcolin' on Jun-07-2009 02:08:

where i'm at, the dj's are labeling their own style "nu disco" this isn't some random label made up by me or anyone else, this is them defining themselves and what they play that way...


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