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Music format for ripping CD's

I've always considered Windows Media Audio (WMA) to be of lower-quality. However, when ripping music from a CD, which format would you go with if you had to choose between these two:

- Windows Media Audio (Lossless)
- MP3 (320 kbps)

what are CDs?

As far as I know WMA is not lossless

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Originally posted by tubularbills what are CDs?

Apparently they are going to replace cassette tapes, I'm not too sure they will though.

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Originally posted by Acton Apparently they are going to replace cassette tapes, I'm not to sure they will though.

talk about lossless!

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Originally posted by tubularbills what are CDs?

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Originally posted by Azz3D As far as I know WMA is not lossless

Well, I rip my CD's via the Zune software. One of the format options that it gives you to use for ripping is "Windows Media Audio (Lossless)". It says that the bitrate varies between 370 kbps and around 430 kbps.

It definitely offers me the highest amount of quality and will use up the most disk space (which I don't mind at all), but I still have my doubts about WMA....

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Originally posted by tubularbills talk about lossless!

FLAC or WAV would be best, but if you have your heart set on either of those two formats, you have to make a decision.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window...udio_9_Lossless

WMA lossless will preserve the original sound of the file (and will therefore sound better), but MP3 is a more accepted and workable format.

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Originally posted by Domesticated FLAC or WAV would be best, but if you have your heart set on either of those two formats, you have to make a decision. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window...udio_9_Lossless WMA lossless will preserve the original sound of the file (and will therefore sound better), but MP3 is a more accepted and workable format.

Thanks for this.

I'm mostly just thinking about what format I will be playing my CD's on my Zune. I have my entire music library on my 80 GB Zune, but I'm only using up around 25 GB of that. Most of it is music at or around 198 kbps. I just figure that I have the extra space on it for better audio quality.

But, as far as I know, the Zune players won't playback WAV files (which is absolute madness).

Oh I see. I didn't know about the WMV lossless codec

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Originally posted by CGRumler But, as far as I know, the Zune players won't playback WAV files (which is absolute madness).

Are you serious?! That is whack!

flac for PC. not sure which mp3 playes read flac though

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear flac for PC. not sure which mp3 playes read flac though

Very few. iPod (1-5.5) with custom firmware, all Cowon players, all iRiver players iirc, and I think a select few others.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Are you serious?! That is whack!

Yup, I just got that confirmed.

WMA Lossless is the next best option, in terms of sound quality.

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Originally posted by CGRumler WMA Lossless is the next best option, in terms of sound quality.

theoretically, any lossless format is equal in sound quality as it is LOSSLESS

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Originally posted by CGRumler Yup, I just got that confirmed. WMA Lossless is the next best option, in terms of sound quality.

Wow, that is just a major fail. How can a player NOT support wav?! It is the easiest format to support!

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear theoretically, any lossless format is equal in sound quality as it is LOSSLESS

While that sounds like perfect logic, I was looking at statistics in different file formats.

Specifically, this one dude ripped a copy of "Daft Punk - One More Time" in two different formats: WMA Lossless and WAV.

The WAV file was almost 10 MB larger than the WMA Lossless version.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Wow, that is just a major fail. How can a player NOT support wav?! It is the easiest format to support!

I'm sure Microsoft did it to help promote their WMA format.

you're talking about size efficiency. yes, ofcourse WAV is the bulkiest format as it is zero compressed. FLAC and APE are both lossless formats (both equal soundwise) with different compression ratios. something like that.

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear you're talking about size efficiency. yes, ofcourse WAV is the bulkiest format as it is zero compressed. FLAC and APE are both lossless formats (both equal soundwise) with different compression ratios. something like that.

The Lossless format is still relatively new to me. I haven't messed with it before, up until less than a month ago.

320 mother******!

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Originally posted by CGRumler While that sounds like perfect logic, I was looking at statistics in different file formats. Specifically, this one dude ripped a copy of "Daft Punk - One More Time" in two different formats: WMA Lossless and WAV. The WAV file was almost 10 MB larger than the WMA Lossless version.

WMA Lossless uses FILE compression, hence the smaller file size. This guy that did this "review" is clueless.

I can rip a song that will be a 50MB wav file, and in FLAC it will be 28MB or so.

file size also depends on the resolution (16-bit, 24-bit) and sample rate (44100, 48000, 96000, 192000 hz). flac supports both 16-bit and 24-bit resolution while remaining compressed which is pretty handy for archiving stuff like record rips etc.

Honestly if you're listening on a portable player with earbud phones it isn't going to make much difference at all.

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