I need to make a decision... (Vinyl VS Digital... Is DVS the way?)

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Posted by staks on Jun-10-2009 07:21:

I need to make a decision... (Vinyl VS Digital... Is DVS the way?)

Well... I am a beginner. I haven't been mixing for very long but one thing is for sure:

I love it.

Now I fell in love with mixing through vinyl mixing at a friend's place... SO it's no surprise I went out and bought myself 2 Technics SL1200 MK2s. Now here is the dilema:

I love mixing hip-hop AND house/trance/minimal etc. But more and more I am noticing I can't get many tracks I want in vinyl (especially for electronic music). I love scratching but damn it I want to be able to get ALL the tracks I want.

I cannot afford to have both CDJs and Turntables at the moment... So I have decided I should make a decision. So with it I have a few questions for you guys:

1) Is traktor scratch or Serato worth it? Or is there a definite lack in quality.

2) Will it be harder and harder acquiring vinyl records? Or is it still going strong?

3) Should I consider switching over to digital completely and get some CDJs? Perhaps in the long run it will be better for my wallet... I am also afraid scratching won't be as good for my hiphop mixing.

Really I am torn between the two... What should I do!?

(I am really leaning towards DVS and my turntables. What do you guys think?)

Posted by Tony Morello on Jun-10-2009 07:39:

go with a DVS, you get the best of both worlds, the feel of vinyl with the ease of collecting music, plus you can operate it with cdjs if you want

for your experience and what you'll be doing with it, i recommend serato, it's pretty easy to get setup and working

vinyl is still out there and not that hard to come by, the only thing you need to worry about is the price involved with collecting records

as for the scratching, it'll be better for you to learn with turntables, and the DVS will be able to keep up, i've seen Craze do a wicked set with serato

Posted by staks on Jun-10-2009 07:56:

I am pretty close to making the decision to go DVS. But I want more input on it!

What are the cons? Do any fellow members use it? Do any succesful DJs use it (stupid question I know, but my ego wants to know!)?

Thanks for your help

Posted by Crebilis on Jun-10-2009 10:53:

I would go for a DVS. You get the vinyl feel, but get the ease of digital tracks. There is no noticable latency (few milliseconds). I can just play regular vinyls with my DVS, MixVibes, and I guess traktor, serato and all the others can do the same.

Honestly, I see no reason for not going with a DVS, unless you enjoy collecting music the most, and even then, I would still go for it.

And there are more then enough DJ's who use a DVS, richie hawtin for example.

Posted by Ted Promo on Jun-10-2009 11:40:

quote:
Originally posted by staks
I am pretty close to making the decision to go DVS. But I want more input on it!

What are the cons? Do any fellow members use it? Do any succesful DJs use it (stupid question I know, but my ego wants to know!)?

Thanks for your help

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmjORkKXl-E

^^he uses Serato and scratches.

Get a dvs. I'd recommend traktor simply because the scratching is *supposedly* more precise, especially when you're moving the vinyl in extremely small increments there's no digital feedback.

Posted by tubby on Jun-10-2009 12:44:

if you have a computer that you can use already, a dvs pays for itself by the time you've bought less than 50 new tracks compared to vinyl. and especially if you are into more than one genre, that doesn't take long at all

Posted by miamitranceman on Jun-10-2009 13:29:

Also consider Torq.

www.torq-dj.com

I've used it for years now.

Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Jun-10-2009 15:10:

traktor scratch is all you need

Posted by staks on Jun-10-2009 20:05:

Thanks guys. I'm looking at the duo for the price. Pretty cheap!

Posted by Zild on Jun-10-2009 20:08:

If Duo is anything like the full version you can't go wrong there. Excellent value.

Posted by notelfreak on Jun-11-2009 18:19:

i made the switch to serato not too long ago, and honestly i can not believe that i did not do it sooner

i can still buy and use the records that i want to, and the whole process of mixing on it is a lot funner than i had originally anticipated.

Posted by Stormbringer on Jun-12-2009 05:49:

Vinyls are still going...not as strong but I think it will end up being strong again. But the new thing to do "now" is getting in DJ Pools. Hard to get in one but once you do, lot's of new, great, underground tunes on vinyl! A lot of tunes that are not even being shown on discogs, yet! But something tells me that more and more vinyl labels are trying to take it more to the underground....which is a good thing, I feel. Nothing creates the hype in a club or rave than great underground tunes that the people have never heard of.

Posted by notelfreak on Jun-12-2009 07:33:

quote:
Originally posted by nazi
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Posted by Teezdalien on Jun-12-2009 14:17:

Posted by blyxa on Jun-14-2009 08:56:

1) Is traktor scratch or Serato worth it? Or is there a definite lack in quality.

I started out with records 9+ years ago. I recently got seratos because pretty much all the record shop I went to closed down. Quality sucks because you are playing mp3s as opposed to vinyl.

2) Will it be harder and harder acquiring vinyl records? Or is it still going strong?

As I mentioned for me in los angeles, it's getting harder and harder.

3) Should I consider switching over to digital completely and get some CDJs? Perhaps in the long run it will be better for my wallet... I am also afraid scratching won't be as good for my hiphop mixing.

Heck you dont need CDJs nor turntables. Get a copy of Ableton live and a nice controller...maybe the new apc40. ever since i got ableton, my technics/serato collect dust. which reminds me i should sell my serato soon.

Posted by notelfreak on Jun-14-2009 18:46:

vynil is still easy to get (for the tracks with actual vinyl releases of course), the problem in north america is that with several large distributors going bankrupt in the last few years it has become more expensive due to the high shipping costs of imports from europe.

like any other passion or labour of love, you just have to ask yourself how much of a price tag you are willing to put on them.

i personally think it is worth it, because (especially with the type of music i listen to) there is simply too much stuff that you can not get digitally that i don't want to miss out on just because i am a jew.

Posted by woscar on Jun-15-2009 06:18:

I am seriously considering getting some Technics and Traktor Scratch this Christmas

Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Jun-15-2009 14:43:

yeah thats a solid setup