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Posted by dEsidEL on Jun-20-2002 17:51:

KarateKid More updates on Rogers & Sympatico - Bit Caps

In case some of you don't receive newsletter reports from the RBUA here's one that I just got recently which I thought might interest some of you.

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Fellow members,

I will be interviewed live on Report on Business Television's "The Bottom Line", hosted by Michael Vaughan, tonight (Tuesday, June 18th) at 6 PM EST. Can't watch it at that time? Not to worry. It will be rebroadcast at 9 PM and then at 1 AM. It will also appear at least once over the weekend.

If you'd like to view the show online, it will be made available tomorrow off of the RoB TV Bottom Line webpage at http://www.robtv.com/channels/hubs/...bottomline.html

The subject of the interview will, of course, be the bit capping issue. Peter Costanzo of Bell Sympatico was also supposed to be present at the interview to provide for some healthy debate of this issue. He is listed at http://www.robtv.com/channels/hubs/guests-today.html as one of the guests. Bell, however, recently had a change in sentiment and cancelled his appearance. Rogers, also, was not interested in having anyone appear on the show tonight. I wonder why?

Regards,

Chris Weisdorf

President and Technical Director,
Residential Broadband Users' Association

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Posted by malek on Jun-20-2002 19:05:

I switched to AccessV.com DSL and its shit, disconnects all the time plus its slow

If anyone had a good/bad experience with him/her switching to DSL please report it here and help your fellow gigabyte leechers


Posted by ed on Jun-20-2002 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
I switched to AccessV.com DSL and its shit, disconnects all the time plus its slow

If anyone had a good/bad experience with him/her switching to DSL please report it here and help your fellow gigabyte leechers


my bro just disconnected my from sympatico because of the bit cap, we're looking for other providers in Montreal... there's aei.ca and primus.ca that I know offer it in my area.

how shit is shit?.. its its really that bad.. is there a cap and how much are you paying?

-s


Posted by malek on Jun-20-2002 19:29:

Now i'm paying 25$+tx per month for first 3 months then after 30$+tx/month. No limit. Downloads can go up to 120K/sec at late night. But now its more like 30K plus its sluggish, I don't know how to explain the feeling of it. And it disconnects from time to time...

I heard Aei.ca was not bad... I have to talk to a buddy i know who has it. there's istop.com with a 20G limit, but excellent service from what i heard. Actually there's so many companies offering Dsl... you have to search for them :|

Now I want to switch again... its so annoying, fucking BELL i'll never forgive them.


Posted by fastmp3 on Jun-20-2002 19:58:

my bro works for videotron and he told me in 4 or 6 weeks there will introduce bit caps as well damn it i need to switch to something else


Posted by Flec on Jun-20-2002 22:20:

im so glad rogers hasnt put that cap on yet cuz i started to use a bandwith moniter to see exactly how much im using


in the past 5 days i have downlaoded 6.55 gigs and uploaded 4.6 gigs

thats .4 gigs uploaded short of passing the middle plan limit that bell has.... how the hell am i supposed to use only 5 gigs up and down in one month when i cant even use less then that in 5 days....


Posted by ed on Jun-20-2002 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
my bro works for videotron and he told me in 4 or 6 weeks there will introduce bit caps as well damn it i need to switch to something else


videotron has had bit caps for about 3 years now.

6 gigs down 1 gig up, its alawys been like that unles you have the samsung modem

-s


Posted by fastmp3 on Jun-21-2002 01:04:

i have the samsung modem , what i wanted to say is that even if u have the samsung modem now they will put caps


Posted by Bizz on Jun-21-2002 01:43:

Re: More updates on Rogers & Sympatico - Bit Caps

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
The subject of the interview will, of course, be the bit capping issue. Peter Costanzo of Bell Sympatico was also supposed to be present at the interview to provide for some healthy debate of this issue. He is listed at http://www.robtv.com/channels/hubs/guests-today.html as one of the guests. Bell, however, recently had a change in sentiment and cancelled his appearance. Rogers, also, was not interested in having anyone appear on the show tonight. I wonder why?


Bunch of lamewads Obviously they know that their reasons for saying that byte caps would "help customers" is a bunch of bull.

They should have shows in Canada like those "Hardball" interview shows in the States... get the Rogers/Sympatico people to speak up, and then have the host prove their logic wrong in front of their face...

http://www.petitiononline.com/carrick/petition.html
http://www.rbua.org


Posted by dEsidEL on Jun-21-2002 07:08:

KarateKid hmmm...

I think overall the reason for these bit caps iz cuz the providers are too cheap and feel it to costly to upgrade the existing infastructure to handle the increased download traffic.

Does anyone else here live in a DSL deadzone where there's only cable Internet available?? I find this extremely frustrating since I can't search for a DSL alternative. You know it's only a matter of time before Rogers implements their caps as well.

btw. someone please post a link for a data traffic monitor as mentioned earlier. I'd like to see how much "perfectly legal" data I'm bringing in :]


Posted by Bizz on Jun-21-2002 07:21:

Does anyone know exactly when Rogers will implement the byte caps? So far I only know about their three-tier system


Posted by malek on Jun-21-2002 09:17:

Apply the 20/80 rule here. if let say 20% of your users are taking 80% of your bandwidth, well, just get rid of them and hike the price by about 15%. You save bandwidth, you get to charge for the occasional people that go over the limit, you keep your service at a perfect level ( no slowdowns ).

Its all buisness people.

Fucking capitalistic system. Guvernment should regulate this bullshit. Instead of going foreward, we're going backward. You ever heard of a rich multimedia experience of the future with a bandwidth and transfer cap?

Anyone in the networking buisness knows that bandwidth prices has dropped so low that its just ridiculus to charge for downloads. Its just another way to squeeze people's money once more.

If enough people switch to other companies, these guys will rethink their strategy. And I'm not talking about the 20% here, I'm talking about your uncles, aunts, friends, everyone. Just spread the word. Whoever you know wanting to get high speed just refer him to some/any company.


Posted by fieroavian on Jun-21-2002 11:05:

rogers is my only choice at the moment!! GOD, the government really should open up the market for cable internet, and if rogers implements a cap, i'm moving down to fuckin Minneapolis.

quote:
Originally posted by Bizz
So far I only know about their three-tier system


tell me about it?


Posted by Bizz on Jun-21-2002 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by fieroavian
tell me about it?


I think I deleted the e-mail, but their proposed three-tier system went something like (correct me if I'm wrong)

Hi-Speed Lite - limited d/l & u/l speeds: $30/month
Hi-Speed Regular - as it is now, w/ unlimited bandwidth: $45/month
Server - if you are hosting a server and uploading more: $80/month


Posted by DEEJAY CHRIS C on Jun-21-2002 18:58:

Well�.. as I see it, people should try to buy some of the tracks, to support the artists, but that another topic.

Bandwidth is costly, for example, a quad processor server that will service approximately 1000 clients start at about $300,000 US, that�s about $480,000 plus extra for the switching system.

I believe they should have some kind of package that allows you up to 10 GB for like an extra $10 or so per month. Just a thought.

I know I will get my ass ripped for saying the above, but what can I do.

My 2 cents.


Posted by Flec on Jun-21-2002 19:50:

search for DUmeter on download.com if you want to see how much bandwith you are using up


Posted by fieroavian on Jun-21-2002 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Bizz
Hi-Speed Lite - limited d/l & u/l speeds: $30/month
Hi-Speed Regular - as it is now, w/ unlimited bandwidth: $45/month
Server - if you are hosting a server and uploading more: $80/month


oh yea my mate has switched to hi-speed lite, just thought it wasn't official. but the $80 server thing was new to me, thanx for telling me all this =)


Posted by DamnDirtyApe on Jun-22-2002 05:16:

How can this be official? I don't think we've been notified of anything by Rogers.

And they haven't mentioned anything about my server yet...


Posted by Bizz on Jun-22-2002 06:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DamnDirtyApe
How can this be official? I don't think we've been notified of anything by Rogers.

And they haven't mentioned anything about my server yet...


Yeah, I never really understood the $80 server price.. I guess it's for those that want to have a more secure and legitimate Internet business, and not get caught for server-type activity on the regular $45 plan. On the other hand, why the hell would you want cable and its shitty upstream for legitimate servers?


Posted by Sarcoman on Jun-22-2002 06:52:

I have Bell Sympatico, and the byte cap went into effect last week. If Audiogalaxy had not gone down when it did, I would have exceeded the cap by now.

Im curious to see what Rogers has planned. I dont know what other Hispeed providers there are in my area, so when Rogers announces its cap, I will have to decide which is best, Rogers or Sympatico.

I used to have Rogers, and it was much faster than Bell. Bell completely sucks, and often, I have periods of close to 30 seconds when the modem just seems to freeze. We definetly need more competition.


Posted by DamnDirtyApe on Jun-22-2002 16:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Bizz

Yeah, I never really understood the $80 server price.. I guess it's for those that want to have a more secure and legitimate Internet business, and not get caught for server-type activity on the regular $45 plan. On the other hand, why the hell would you want cable and its shitty upstream for legitimate servers?


Maybe if you wanted to do some web-hosting out of your home, but didn't want to pay for a T1?


Posted by Bizz on Jun-22-2002 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DamnDirtyApe


Maybe if you wanted to do some web-hosting out of your home, but didn't want to pay for a T1?


I'm just thinking that webpages with cable hosts (more specifically, Rogers cable) can really piss off their clients, lol


Posted by Flec on Jun-25-2002 19:27:

go damn, good thing rogers has no cap, i hit bells cap for both uploads and downloads in less then 10 days :/


Posted by Fir3start3r on Jun-26-2002 05:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Flec
go damn, good thing rogers has no cap, i hit bells cap for both uploads and downloads in less then 10 days :/


Oh don't worry...it's comin'...



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