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Posted by mfitterer1 on Jun-18-2009 01:24:

Help Me Figure Out The Source Of This Noise (Clip & Analyzer Pic Incl.)

I am picking up this noise in my dj sets somewhere in my chain. Help me figure out what it is, whats causing it, and how to remedy it? Thanks!


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Posted by mfitterer1 on Jun-18-2009 11:37:

Bump! would like to get this figured out so I can eliminate it!


Posted by Wayne_B on Jun-18-2009 13:06:

That's some serious noise! lol I see that your CPU usage is pretty high in the pic.. and that's only with monitoring one input and PAZ? Doesn't seem right. You should try updating all your drivers or at least reinstall your sound card and see if that makes a difference. Where is the sound originating from by the way?


Posted by mfitterer1 on Jun-18-2009 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Wayne_B
That's some serious noise! lol I see that your CPU usage is pretty high in the pic.. and that's only with monitoring one input and PAZ? Doesn't seem right. You should try updating all your drivers or at least reinstall your sound card and see if that makes a difference. Where is the sound originating from by the way?


Thats my laptops built in soundcard. I have a dedicated desktop for production. Still have my software on here from before I upgraded.

You're telling me! I mean i'm making due using audacity to cut it out for now but I know it's not taking just bad things out of the mix. I'd like a clear signal I just don't know how this is happening!


Posted by Wayne_B on Jun-18-2009 17:33:

Hey.. I dunno about this but there are a couple areas you can look at:

It could be your cables etc You can try different cables of course but also keep your signal cables away from any power cables or devices that can be avoided.

As mentioned before, try reinstalling your drivers and Live cos there's a definite problem there but before you do that check you settings in the audio tab in Live. Maybe your latency is set too low. For onboard sound cards your might be stuck with the worst possible setting (bigger buffer size).

If its your cables you can buy ground loop isolators which will remove unwanted feedback. There was a topic on here about them recently.

Hopefully you'll sort out the problem soon


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Jun-18-2009 18:23:

This is a good thread, how do you spot the noise in your dj sets on ableton


Posted by notelfreak on Jun-18-2009 18:29:

i can't believe the cpu% is that high.


Posted by Tony Morello on Jun-18-2009 20:56:

if you're on a laptop, try unplugging it and record using battery power

also, close anything non-essential to recording


Posted by notelfreak on Jun-18-2009 21:16:

what are your cpu specs?

because once again i think they must be horrible to get cpu% that high.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Jun-19-2009 06:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Wayne_B
Hey.. I dunno about this but there are a couple areas you can look at:

It could be your cables etc You can try different cables of course but also keep your signal cables away from any power cables or devices that can be avoided.

As mentioned before, try reinstalling your drivers and Live cos there's a definite problem there but before you do that check you settings in the audio tab in Live. Maybe your latency is set too low. For onboard sound cards your might be stuck with the worst possible setting (bigger buffer size).

If its your cables you can buy ground loop isolators which will remove unwanted feedback. There was a topic on here about them recently.

Hopefully you'll sort out the problem soon


I just use the laptop for internet and such now, prior I would just hook my external audio device up to it when doing productions/mixes. Just cut the noise sample swiotched it over to the laptop and ran the analysis and everything there, then uploaded it.

Disregard the live freaking out heh.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Jun-19-2009 06:24:

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
This is a good thread, how do you spot the noise in your dj sets on ableton


Its very apparent at the beginning of the mix before a signal comes in. It doesnt stay this heavy throughout the whole mix but im sure its affecting things nonetheless.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Jun-19-2009 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by notelfreak
what are your cpu specs?

because once again i think they must be horrible to get cpu% that high.


I had like 40 windows open in firefox at the time and when I do this it rapes my cpu. My comps specs are fine but even then I don't use this laptop for anything but internet anymore.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Jun-19-2009 06:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
if you're on a laptop, try unplugging it and record using battery power

also, close anything non-essential to recording


I DONT USE MY LAPTOP FOR PRODUCTION/MIXES ANY LONGER!!


Posted by notelfreak on Jun-19-2009 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by mfitterer1
I DONT USE MY LAPTOP FOR PRODUCTION/MIXES ANY LONGER!!


good for you, from what i see your cpu is still a piece of shit


Posted by mfitterer1 on Jun-19-2009 19:51:

quote:
Originally posted by notelfreak
good for you, from what i see your cpu is still a piece of shit


Yeah 1.8 ghz core two duos sure suck. I must just be dumb, Gtfo troll.


Posted by Wayne_B on Jun-19-2009 20:06:

I used to have one of those dual core 1.8ghz intel processors.. not the core2duo and it worked like a bomb. I had 4 gigs of ram on the system though which makes a difference. Maybe you have an issue with your ram. There are test programs available on the net. Also it might be a virus that's using up all your memory and resulting in poor performance. Try Avast antivirus to search for problems, it's light on the cpu and works very well.

The last thing that comes to mind is that your power supply has degraded over time and is now not enough for your pc to perform properly.

The most important thing is that you have a decent sound card. Even my old P4 works well with a proper sound card in it


Posted by mfitterer1 on Jun-19-2009 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Wayne_B
I used to have one of those dual core 1.8ghz intel processors.. not the core2duo and it worked like a bomb. I had 4 gigs of ram on the system though which makes a difference. Maybe you have an issue with your ram. There are test programs available on the net. Also it might be a virus that's using up all your memory and resulting in poor performance. Try Avast antivirus to search for problems, it's light on the cpu and works very well.

The last thing that comes to mind is that your power supply has degraded over time and is now not enough for your pc to perform properly.

The most important thing is that you have a decent sound card. Even my old P4 works well with a proper sound card in it


Just ran some anti virus and sure enough I had a trojan. Those bastards are sneaky, this is exactly why I keep a separate comp for the net and everything non production.

Back to the noise. I'm more concerned with what is causing it. Is it a ground loop? I doubt it's a cable issue I've tried all of my different monster cables, including two different types of prolinks.

I know I can figure it out if I know where in the chain its coming from or what sort of a noise it is. Thanks in advance. I do notice I don't get any of this on my productions so one would have to assume it's either coming from the djm-800 or the soundcard.


Posted by Wayne_B on Jun-20-2009 08:40:

I think it has to be a ground loop causing it..lol can't think of anything else. I don't know if there is a way to test other than trying a ground loop isolator but they aren't too expensive.
You could try connecting your equipment up in another room in your house(on the opposite end)and see if its the same.



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