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Posted by andrewyates on Jun-18-2009 16:42:

Your opinion on playing 'older' tracks...

There is so much made about unknown, new, and hard to find tracks heard during sets. I truly understand the lure of seeing a big name DJ spin and the thrill of hoping they unleash a wicked new bomb you've never heard...but will become obsessed with. It's the main reason many of us are hooked on this music: the thrill of the unknown. You don't know where a track is going but you can't wait for it to drop and the crowd to lose their minds. Sometimes top end DJ's throw in some classics and more than once I've read the threads where a DJ gets torn apart because he played a few old tunes.

Why is this such an evil sin? Or is it only the biggest and the best that are held to this accountability? To stay on top you must keep dropping jaws with brand new tracks. Can it ever just be that a good tune is a good tune, new or old? At smaller gigs, with unknown DJ's (ok fine, like myself or many of you) is there a need for any backlash to playing classics?

Going through the thousands of tracks I have in Serato the last couple months, I've gotten a bit nostalgic and if I love a tune, and it works into a set well, I play it. Why not? I haven't personally received much criticism for this - not that I'm playing to the biggest crowds either

Just curious what the general perception of this is. Always a sin to play oldies...or is it a case by case..dj by dj basis?


Posted by bas on Jun-18-2009 17:05:

Re: Your opinion on playing 'older' tracks...

quote:
Originally posted by andrewyates
Why is this such an evil sin?

It's not.


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Jun-18-2009 17:09:

personally, don't like to hear older tracks unless there is a good remix of it.

that, or if the dj is doing a hip hop set... "poison" by BBD never gets played out.

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Posted by bas on Jun-18-2009 17:16:

quote:
Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
personally, don't like to hear older tracks unless there is a good remix of it.

I wish this was grounds for suspension. I would suspend you so hard. SO HARD.


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Jun-18-2009 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
I wish this was grounds for suspension. I would suspend you so hard. SO HARD.


chicken shit


Posted by dutchessdani on Jun-18-2009 17:54:

Worm Popper

quote:
Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
personally, don't like to hear older tracks unless there is a good remix of it.

that, or if the dj is doing a hip hop set... "poison" by BBD never gets played out.

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Bite ur tounge billy! One of the best things about Ferry (or from my opinion) is when he is playing a new set you're totally into and then drops in BEAUTIFUL or some other version of FIRE that makes you go nutz and crawl out of skin right? ....(Que heart shaped finger language hand gesture) ha ha ha

When skillfully done I think it's what makes a Good Dj Great


Posted by Scoops on Jun-18-2009 17:56:

a good DJ can play bombs and newest tracks all night long

a great DJ can dig deep and pull out classics and make it work perfectly


ex: DT


Posted by LYNDSAYwhaaat? on Jun-18-2009 18:00:

I personally LOVE playing old or classic tracks. When I do some digging, and find some white label sh*t to download, I could care less if it came out years ago� it�s new to most people that are hearing it. Also, for most of the people that attend my shows regularly, they will even request that I play certain tunes (that I consider classic) and it really gets the crowd going because they �know� the song. And I find a lot of the new songs that come out (which can be fantastic) can also be repeated throughout a night by different DJ's because they are on the "top 100" or whatnot.


Posted by djjoshuaallen on Jun-18-2009 21:51:

i hardly ever play anything that the crowd im playing for has heard before. So I guess it doesnt really matter much in that scenario. However, I usually dont play tracks that I have had in my bag for more than 6-8 months


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Jun-18-2009 21:59:

it feels good - tony, tone, toni

never gets old yo!!!


Posted by Clovis on Jun-18-2009 22:02:

I play whatever I think will sound good in the setting regardless if it came out yesterday or 10-15 years ago.

You can play old tracks without them being instantly recognizable classics too. A lot of good dance music was made over the years that did not get hammered to death by every DJ and still sounds really good today...


Posted by HotDogWater on Jun-18-2009 22:21:

i've noticed a lot of edm listeners especially are music 'snobs' -- they'll turn their noses up at any track a dj is playing that has been around for more than just a little bit.

myself, i like hearing the classics just as much as the new ones.

one of my favorite moments in electronic music was about 4-5 years ago when Armin and Markus were playing at 4th and B. oceanlab - satellite came on and the entire club sang the chorus -- still sometimes gives me goosebumps.


Posted by Alain on Jun-18-2009 22:52:

I play older tracks all the time


Posted by mikenewman on Jun-19-2009 00:06:

I think there's also two main types of "old" tracks. There's stuff that came out last year and then there's stuff that came out 3+ years ago that you can call classic. I have no problem at all dropping the more recent 1-2 year old stuff regularily, and will also drop the occasional classic tracks. That being said, I definitely try to avoid dropping the SAME classic tracks and really dislike it when you hear DJs dropping the same classics over and over (unless of course it's one of their productions, and then it can be somewhat excused).


Posted by Electrophile on Jun-19-2009 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
i hardly ever play anything that the crowd im playing for has heard before. So I guess it doesnt really matter much in that scenario. However, I usually dont play tracks that I have had in my bag for more than 6-8 months


I was going to say the same thing. Psy and prog-psy are a different animal. Granted there are some bigger names like anything off of Iboga or Hom-mega which are well known, but if you buy tracks on small labels (pretty much all of them) or VA's the crowd will never know what hit them.


Posted by Kismet7 on Jun-19-2009 01:08:

old tracks...mmm old tracks. Next month I think i'll make a mix of mostly old racks that came out in the past few years.


Posted by Lomeli on Jun-19-2009 04:56:

I'll beat that bitch with a bat!


Posted by somethinfierce on Jun-19-2009 05:01:

a great track is a great track regardless of age, if it goes well within a set... i say why not?


Posted by gerard6975 on Jun-19-2009 05:38:

there is totally nothing wrong with playing old tracks. if it goes perfectly with the set and it's the perfect time to drop it, why not?!

if the old track is a complete crap anyway, why even do it?


Posted by darin epsilon on Jun-19-2009 06:22:

To keep on top, a DJ has to have the most upfront and exclusive track selection possible. This is sometimes the sole reason why a top jock can command such a high fee. It ain't always about the mixing skills. Knowing when and where to drop a classic is also a skill.


Posted by surfrgal on Jun-19-2009 08:26:

I heard Paul Oakenfold play Yeke Yeke two years ago and I nearly threw up.

The only time I like hearing old tracks is when I don't know that they are old tracks, ie. they were not widely played and/or I don't recognize them. Djs playing old hits is just awful.

There are so many amazing tunes that never got wide play which could be played for years and years afterwards and nobody (apart from the diehard trainspotters) would even know what they were.



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