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What Key Detection Software Is Most Accurate

I searched the forum and was surprised there was no threads on this.

I'd like a discussion on what software has the best key detection algorithm available, a great tool to the art of harmonic mixing. As far as I know, there's 4 programs that offer a key detection functionality to date. They are: Mixmeister, MixShare's Rapid Evolution, Mixed In Key, and VirtualDJ.

What software has the most accurate and most reliable key detection? Which of these programs would you recommend? Are there other softwares that I have not mentioned?

This is the only thread I've found that compares (three of) these programs, but the latest results are from 2007. We need up to date benchmarking!

http://www.mixingonbeat.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2268

What key detection software has the highest accuracy rate in the midst of 2009?

your ear.

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Originally posted by notnotelfreak your ear.

Well that depends on the ear

But you're definately right. With a piano you can easily key your tracks, but you know the deal.. It takes time. Alot.. of time, for a substantial collection of music.

Alot of pros use "Mixed in Key" and from my own experience I'd say it works really well. I'm not sure how the competition stands up to it though..sorry

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Originally posted by Wayne_B Alot of pros use "Mixed in Key" and from my own experience I'd say it works really well. I'm not sure how the competition stands up to it though..sorry

kk thanx for answering anyway and leaving your recommendation!

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Originally posted by lenieNt Force Well that depends on the ear

yeah but this is the thing

regardless of whose ear it is, all the music you have keyed with it will probably be consistent among one another

plus you might actually have to listen carefully to your records.

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Originally posted by nefardec yeah but this is the thing regardless of whose ear it is, all the music you have keyed with it will probably be consistent among one another plus you might actually have to listen carefully to your records.

Good point. This is also true for the different keying softwares, as I've heard they key tracks differently but respectively consistent. You should never use two different algorithms to key the music, or two different pairs of ears for that matter.

But none of the programs are 100% accurate on all songs and there will be glitches here and there within the same program also, hence it would be nice to know which has the best algorithm and the highest accuracy rate.

In the link previously posted the program that tops the list is RE2 (Rapid Evolution), with an accuracy rate of 70%. But this was in August 2007, and algorithms have developed further now.

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Originally posted by notnotelfreak your ear.

that is not key detection software

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd that is not key detection software

ear v 1.0

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Originally posted by notnotelfreak your ear.

+999


Or , rapid evolution does it pretty well.

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Originally posted by lenieNt Force Good point. This is also true for the different keying softwares, as I've heard they key tracks differently but respectively consistent. You should never use two different algorithms to key the music, or two different pairs of ears for that matter.

That is correct, different programs will most certainly give you different results.

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In the link previously posted the program that tops the list is RE2 (Rapid Evolution), with an accuracy rate of 70%. But this was in August 2007, and algorithms have developed further now.

For the record we are constantly working on improving the key detection of Mixed In Key. To our knowledge we use the only key detection system that will have it's own patent (pending approval). Generally we have stayed away from official comparisons though. The entire process can be rather suggestive, and we would rather focus on helping DJs sound great.


-Chad P
Mixed In Key

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Originally posted by ChadP MIK Generally we have stayed away from official comparisons though.

yeah, because last time we checked mixed in key got trounced by one of the free programs

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, because last time we checked mixed in key got trounced by one of the free programs

I've seen those comparisons before. The test was done by the creator of one of the free programs, so I don't put much stock in the results. Keying tracks can be subjective so it's easy to skew the results any way you want. I think it's far more important how well you can mix with the results.

I find that Mixed in Key gets it wrong about 20% of the time. Usually it just gets a song confused with it's relative major/minor, or the next fifth over, but sometimes it's way way off.

Your ear is truly the best way to key tracks. Learning some basic music theory will improve your mixing by leaps and bounds, because you will be able to change keys in creative ways rather than just going by what you have your tunes labeled as. You will also learn to trust your instincts more.

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Originally posted by ChadP MIK I've seen those comparisons before. The test was done by the creator of one of the free programs, so I don't put much stock in the results. Keying tracks can be subjective so it's easy to skew the results any way you want. I think it's far more important how well you can mix with the results.

If you say so. Most of us are savvy enough to recognise a ripoff when we see one.

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Originally posted by ChadP MIK I've seen those comparisons before. The test was done by the creator of one of the free programs, so I don't put much stock in the results. Keying tracks can be subjective so it's easy to skew the results any way you want. I think it's far more important how well you can mix with the results.

either way i dont think you should have to pay for such a program

ear??? wtf? i can not tell what fucking note a tune is in and im known for heaving a good ear lol. i just assume all tracks are in C Minor and then transposed up and down hahaha.

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Originally posted by sleepydragon either way i dont think you should have to pay for such a program

What? You expect people to just make you software for free? Plenty of people do give their software away for free but if someone wants compensation for their efforts who are you to tell them they should be doing it for free?

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