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I need plumbing help

Okay, I'll spare you the unnecessary details. I'm moving out of my student house this week, but the toilet is blocked and the sink has barely been draining for a few days now. Usually the sink can be cleared by cleaning the plug hole with q tips, but since we're moving out at the end of the week, all cleaning has been delayed until then.

The toilet hasn't shown any signs of up-fuckery before it blocked completely today. When flushed, the water went nowhere and shit and piss actually came up the sink.

If just one of them were blocked I'd know what to do, but the fact both of them are fucked makes me think the blockage is somewhere in the piping of the house, which will probably require a plumber we can't really afford.

Someone on TA has to know enough about plumbing to advise me on a course of action that isn't "don't use the bathroom for five days".

buy a plunger from poundland or something, or goto a good diy store or screwfix or something, buy some really strong industrial strength stuff.


Aside from that. get a drain unblocker coil thing, feed it down the toilet and if the blockage is from paper or something you can pierce it, allowing the water to flow.

We've tried the chemical method on the sink, which worked reasonably well. The sink now drains, but still pretty slowly. I suppose the next thing to do is to try the same on the toilet.

My main worry is that the blockage is more general. I want to have a shower, but would water draining from the bath meet this blockage and cause shit to flood up all over the bathroom?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J We've tried the chemical method on the sink, which worked reasonably well. The sink now drains, but still pretty slowly. I suppose the next thing to do is to try the same on the toilet.

Try more chemicals..Get a few bottles of the most powerful stuff you can find and use them.. If it worked a little before, chances are it will help if you do it again. After doing that, rinse/flush a few times then pour a full gallon of bleach down the toilet/sink to wash everything down.

probably. it depends how the piping is routed. If there's one outpipe from the bathroom and everything else seems to lead to the same way, it probably does.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Try more chemicals..Get a few bottles of the most powerful stuff you can find and use them.. If it worked a little before, chances are it will help if you do it again. You might try a full gallon of bleach too afterward to wash it all down.

don't mix shit. the fumes will smell like the taxi driver who you needed to roll the window down in freezing temperatures!

leave the toilet backed up for the next fool who moves there......

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Originally posted by Ian don't mix shit. the fumes will smell like the taxi driver who you needed to roll the window down in freezing temperatures!

Yeah DONT MIX THEM..lol. I mixed some Tilex spray with bleach one time, hoping to make it stronger and it started bubbling up in some crazy chemical reaction. I only took one breath of it and the fumes burned my lungs badly..I thought I was gonna die.

Only use one product at a time, let it soak in, then flush with water.

The sink has its own outflow through the wall where it joins the guttering pipe down and outside. That's what makes its coordinated up-fuckery with the toilet so baffling and scary.

It's worth noting that this is an old Victorian house and two centuries of redesigns have left it with craziness everywhere. There are wires that go all of the house and then just terminate, for example.

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Originally posted by nchs09 leave the toilet backed up for the next fool who moves there......

There's a reason I wanted advice that wasn't "just leave it and move out". Firstly, how the fuck are we supposed to live for a week with no bathroom? Secondly, there's a �200 deposit per-person, and there are four of us. That's �800 left floating in the drain if we don't fix it.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J There's a reason I wanted advice that wasn't "just leave it and move out". Firstly, how the fuck are we supposed to live for a week with no bathroom? Secondly, there's a �200 deposit per-person, and there are four of us. That's �800 left floating in the drain if we don't fix it.

A plumber shouldn't even cost half that. If you can't fix it just hire someone and you will still come out better than if you did nothing. Just consider it a partial loss of your deposit.

Call Joe the Plumber.

I don't think anyone expected these words to ever be written on TA, but PM Googooly... isn't he a plumber?

i was hoping this thread was going to be about your bowel.

If it's only one appliance that's blocked we won't need Joe Plumber. But if it's a problem with the drainage then we'll have no choice.

I've just had a shower and it drained without raising the water level of the toilet or sink, but it did take a little while. The toilet is very slowly draining. So the blockage isn't total, but it is looking like a job for the plumber.

So the plan I've come up with is as follows: wait for the toilet to drain down to normal, then launch a coordinated chemical strike on toilet, sink and bath. Leave it for a couple of hours, then test. If we're still fucked, then Joe The Plumber it is.

Both your sink and toilet will join to the sewer out-flow pipe; if both of them are backing up then your blockage is lower then the point where both join up. You're going to need a long snake wire... in the basement there will be a screw cap access to the sewer out-flow pipe, open it (will require a pipe wrench), feed the snake up the out-flow pipe until you meet resistance (blockage), turn the snake to break-up the blockage (you will know you have done this when you hear the sewage drain down the pipe past the access... some may come out... you'll want to clean it up), once the block is gone put the screw cap back on. If you don't find the block going up then try going down; however, if the block is lower then the access pipe then there is a pretty good chance that the problem is tree/plant roots have broken through the pipe... if this is the case then you'll need a roto-rooter service to break them up; however, this should be your landlord's responsibility as such an occurrence could not possibly be your fault.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Both your sink and toilet will join to the sewer out-flow pipe; if both of them are backing up then your blockage is lower then the point where both join up. You're going to need a long snake wire... in the basement there will be a screw cap access to the sewer out-flow pipe, open it (will require a pipe wrench), feed the snake up the out-flow pipe until you meet resistance (blockage), turn the snake to break-up the blockage (you will know you have done this when you hear the sewage drain down the pipe past the access... some may come out... you'll want to clean it up), once the block is gone put the screw cap back on. If you don't find the block going up then try going down; however, if the block is lower then the access pipe then there is a pretty good chance that the problem is tree/plant roots have broken through the pipe... if this is the case then you'll need a roto-rooter service to break them up; however, this should be your landlord's responsibility as such an occurrence could not possibly be your fault.

that's what I was gonna write!

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard ;however, this should be your landlord's responsibility as such an occurrence could not possibly be your fault.

Fuck it, then. We phoned them and they said they'd send a plumber if the problem wasn't our fault - otherwise it was on our heads to deal with it.

The house has changed ownership during our tenancy, you see, and since the new landlord doesn't have our deposit (or any of our rent), they aren't very sympathetic.

Great post, thanks a lot.

Ask this guy:

I live in England, thousands of miles from Toronto.

As it stands, the two estate agents (not landlords) are engaged in some sort of plumber-tennis, with the old ones saying it's no longer their problem and the new ones saying we haven't signed any contract with them, they don't take the house until July 1st and so we can fuck off. Neither wants to pay up for the plumber and we're sat here with a bathroom that smells of shit.

Okay, you don't get to post in this thread anymore.

bale out at your end with a bucket and a smaller bucket or container. get some mr muscles sink/plughole unblocker, or some tnt.

Pull out your rental agreement, and also find the landlord and tenants act for your district/country/region. Chances are, this is not your problem and therefore, you shouldn't be paying a damn cent to fix it.

There are rules RE: landlord changes. USUALLY, the new landlord assumes all duties and responsibilities of the old one.

Don't let them rip you off. If you used the toilet like a normal person and weren't shoving weird things down the pipes, then you shouldn't be held responsible for their plumbing issues.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J There's a reason I wanted advice that wasn't "just leave it and move out". Firstly, how the fuck are we supposed to live for a week with no bathroom?

People figured out for hundreds of years how to live with out a toilet... im sure you can figure it out.

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Originally posted by nchs09 People figured out for hundreds of years how to live with out a toilet... im sure you can figure it out.

We know you still do in Guat Mario

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