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Looking for kit for a new sound

Heres what I use:

Access Virus B
Nord Rack
Sylenth1
Vanguard
NI Pro 53
Atmosphere
Superwave P8

So I've got the VA thing pretty much covered. All the above apart from Atmosphere give me similar sounds, don't get me wrong this gear is capable of a huge array of sounds but what I'm after is a Synth VST or hardware which will allow me to make sounds fundamentally different to the those made by the kit above - most of the above are subtractive (right? ) Perhaps another synthesis method??

Any ideas??

I would highly recommend checking out Tone2's Gladiator2. I believe version 2 was just released as well, so you're going to be getting something most do not have yet . It uses an amazing synthesis process, is loaded with nice presets, and has a nice random button. I tried it out and I one thing that I really liked about it was you could tell a huge difference as you raised voices, even past 16. I think part of this is because of the advanced synthesis the synth uses. It's also protected by the best CP I have seen yet and doesn't require a dongle or any of that nonsense. Don't be fooled, there are torrent copies out there (trust me, i know) and they do not work. They're good for trying it out though if you are into that.

Cryophonik is a big fan of it as well I believe.

Here is a link for info on it.



http://www.tone2.com/html/gladiator...synthesize.html

Have you looked into something like Reaktor?

I have the demo of Gladiator but haven't tried it yet, sounds like I need to.

Reaktor - I know a mate uses it, you sort of build your softsynth with it don't you? - in a non synthedit way!

airbase uses gladiator in his new single.

it's at the break down very plinkity plonky sound. lol

nice sound though.

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Originally posted by Prototrance Reaktor - I know a mate uses it, you sort of build your softsynth with it don't you? - in a non synthedit way!

Sort of. I've never made one myself (should probably try one of these days), but the user library has tonnes of different synths, samplers and effects.

There's lots of crazy effects, weird fm/grain/wavetable synths and so on.

Well worth it for alternate timbres.

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Originally posted by hasbone Sort of. I've never made one myself (should probably try one of these days), but the user library has tonnes of different synths, samplers and effects. There's lots of crazy effects, weird fm/grain/wavetable synths and so on. Well worth it for alternate timbres.

Right O, next time I'm at his studio I'll interrogate it.

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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley Cryophonik is a big fan of it as well I believe.

I'd say Gladiator whore is a more fitting description.

Other synths that you may want to check out:

- NI FM8 - a good FM synth is always good to have around.
- Camel Audio Alchemy - additive, granular, and spectral synthesis (+subtractive synthesis) - it's marketed as the ultimate sample mangling synth.
- Omnisphere - synth/rompler - has additive, FM, and limited granular synth capabilities as well.
- DSI Mopho - cheap analog mono synth, but it sure is a ton of fun.
- DSI Mono Evolver Desktop - cheap analog/digital mono synth that can get pretty wild sounding. Check out youtube vids to see it in action - you'll have a hard time believing it's monophonic.

Speaking of Alchemy, I just noticed over on KVR that the long-awaited 1.10 update was released yesterday:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=255026

I haven't downloaded it yet, but it looks like some new features have been added, lots of bug fixes, and 150 new factory presets (all free to registered users). Camel Audio has excellent customer service and Alchemy is pretty amazing synth. I highly recommend giving the demo a go, watching the vids on their website, etc. if you're interested in something that specializes in other forms of synthesis.

Really digging your stuff, so nice work on that. Personally I'm a huge fan of V-Station and Z3ta+, both of which i use for pretty much anything that comes to mind. I also use reason via rewire a lot and to me the possibilities are endless, maybe you could check it out, sometimes it really helps get my creative juices flowing. BTW sent you a pm.

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Originally posted by cryophonik I'd say Gladiator whore is a more fitting description. Other synths that you may want to check out: - NI FM8 - a good FM synth is always good to have around. - Camel Audio Alchemy - additive, granular, and spectral synthesis (+subtractive synthesis) - it's marketed as the ultimate sample mangling synth. - Omnisphere - synth/rompler - has additive, FM, and limited granular synth capabilities as well. - DSI Mopho - cheap analog mono synth, but it sure is a ton of fun. - DSI Mono Evolver Desktop - cheap analog/digital mono synth that can get pretty wild sounding. Check out youtube vids to see it in action - you'll have a hard time believing it's monophonic.

My PC doesn't have the beans to run Omnisphere, well it does, but it would only be able to run that! As for hardware, if I buy any more I'm going to get murdered by my Mrs. FM8 or Alchemy it is then, she can't see those as they are VST's. Nice

Why would u want more Gear! just make music!

Upgrade the PC

I think you should be able to do good work with what you've got... FM8 and Absynth might be good though, they have a bit of a different sound. Reaktor would also probably help. You should just buy NI Komplete, it'll be cheaper in the long run.

Really though, synths aren't going to make a big difference to your sound. What you need more are probably new techniques if your sound is tired.

Rob Papen's Predator for extreme analog basses.

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Originally posted by noicuc Rob Papen's Predator for extreme analog basses.

Yeah, exactly, because he's got a virus and a bunch of other VAs, so he obviously needs another one if he's looking for a completely different sound

Chances are the kit isn't the reason you're unable to get anything new out of what you have. Try investing in some books about synthesis and sound design. Learn what you're doing first, then worry about gear.

yes what you've got can do any sound.

buy books as Hex said. and get a new pc...

Get something like a Moog Phatty, that will give you sounds that nothing you have got so far comes close to.

I'd also suggest you go to a more synthesis oriented forum to ask questions like that. Most of the people here couldn't tell you the difference between sampling and synthesis... let alone give you advice on different types of synthesis.

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Originally posted by hexadecimal I'd also suggest you go to a more synthesis oriented forum to ask questions like that. Most of the people here couldn't tell you the difference between sampling and synthesis... let alone give you advice on different types of synthesis.

Where do you get that idea? There have been dozens of threads here exploring different aspects of synthesis, and probably hundreds of "how do I make this sound?" threads where people offered advice...

its time to get an analog synth.

Either a moog or FM8, probably FM8

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Originally posted by Luke Terry Either a moog or FM8, probably FM8

Uhh... you do realize those are nothing like each other, right?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Where do you get that idea?

Every time I visit this forum, I see mostly idiotic comments, and incorrect or idiotic advice being offered. I didn't say everyone, I said most.

This forum is ground zero for the ableton generation, many of whom consider music a platform from which to gain recognition and/or fame, rather than an art form.

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