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Beatgridding trance tunes in traktor

Im having a bit of bother getting my traktor to behave when its autobeatgridding traks with a lot of high mid range. Can anyone tell me what is going wrong and how to fix this. Also any good info on how to stop wipe the auto beatgrid and do it completely manually.

There is no such thing as "auto beatgridding" in Traktor. Check out this video tutorial on how to do it properly

http://www.djtechtools.com/2008/04/...ect-beat-grids/

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Originally posted by woscar There is no such thing as "auto beatgridding" in Traktor. Check out this video tutorial on how to do it properly http://www.djtechtools.com/2008/04/...ect-beat-grids/

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Yes there is. You click auto beat grid and it puts a grid down for you (after analyzing the track)

Though your advice is sound, beatgridding it yourself is a lot more accurate. Although i get quite a good success rate with auto beat gridding.

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Originally posted by n3lly \] Yes there is. You click auto beat grid and it puts a grid down for you (after analyzing the track) Though your advice is sound, beatgridding it yourself is a lot more accurate. Although i get quite a good success rate with auto beat gridding.

LOL, technically you're right. But that's pretty much the only way to beatgrid a track. You drop the Grid cue on a beat and the rest of the track gets gridded. Then you can manually adjust, but you can't actually make the grid yourself.

I find that I can get 99% of my tracks accurately gridded in 2 seconds or so. The amount of tracks that I've had to manually adjust is quite minimum. It happens mostly with tracks that don't have a round number of BPMs.

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Originally posted by woscar LOL, technically you're right. But that's pretty much the only way to beatgrid a track. You drop the Grid cue on a beat and the rest of the track gets gridded. Then you can manually adjust, but you can't actually make the grid yourself. I find that I can get 99% of my tracks accurately gridded in 2 seconds or so. The amount of tracks that I've had to manually adjust is quite minimum. It happens mostly with tracks that don't have a round number of BPMs.

True, but if you do go into the grid section there is a little button with an A on it and a line below it. click that and it grids the track for you. Without you even having to drop a cue point and change it to grid. Again adjustments are up to yourself and how you like having your grid points lined up. You just have to make sure that they're relatively similar otherwise you'll get plenty of clashing sounds.

If I can't get a track locked down properly from the get go I just forget about it and move on to the next. Honestly considering how small the percentage of tracks is it's not even worth bothering with. Yes this has pained me several times when I bought tracks and realized they'll be a pain in the ass to mix. Sven Tasnadi - Hotel Seeblick (Marko Furstenberg Remix) comes to mind. I'm only mentioning this one because it's the most recent occasion on which this occurred.

Adam, there were some tunes that I thought were a pain in the ass to grid too. It's not the track itself, it has more to do with Traktor's BPM detection algorithm. All you need to do is adjust to the exact BPM manually and you're good to go.

There's 2 buttons that move the entire grid to the left or the the right. And the 2 buttons below those, expand or contract the grid as needed. You will notice that when you press either of those, the BPM goes up or down in .001 increments. Just find a part of the track that is not in line and use those buttons to move the grid. Then move to another section and do the same. You should have the whole track gridded perfectly in a minute or so.

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Originally posted by Adam420 If I can't get a track locked down properly from the get go I just forget about it and move on to the next. Honestly considering how small the percentage of tracks is it's not even worth bothering with. Yes this has pained me several times when I bought tracks and realized they'll be a pain in the ass to mix. Sven Tasnadi - Hotel Seeblick (Marko Furstenberg Remix) comes to mind. I'm only mentioning this one because it's the most recent occasion on which this occurred.

Wow so you'd potentially give up on tune of the year if it doesnt auto beatgrid??


Thats a bit of a cop out man..

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Originally posted by Adam420 If I can't get a track locked down properly from the get go I just forget about it and move on to the next. Honestly considering how small the percentage of tracks is it's not even worth bothering with. Yes this has pained me several times when I bought tracks and realized they'll be a pain in the ass to mix. Sven Tasnadi - Hotel Seeblick (Marko Furstenberg Remix) comes to mind. I'm only mentioning this one because it's the most recent occasion on which this occurred.

Good grief. I wonder what would had happened if vinyl DJ's did that a decade ago.

"I couldn't beatmatch it instantly so I threw it away."

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Originally posted by Adam420 If I can't get a track locked down properly from the get go I just forget about it and move on to the next. Honestly considering how small the percentage of tracks is it's not even worth bothering with. Yes this has pained me several times when I bought tracks and realized they'll be a pain in the ass to mix. Sven Tasnadi - Hotel Seeblick (Marko Furstenberg Remix) comes to mind. I'm only mentioning this one because it's the most recent occasion on which this occurred.

LOL

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Originally posted by The Don Wow so you'd potentially give up on tune of the year if it doesnt auto beatgrid?? Thats a bit of a cop out man..

What track of the year? If the track was really important to me then I guess I would take the time. I don't know, I just never found the system to be very intuitive, so I just didn't bother. It happens so rarely that I'll load up a tune with an improper beatgrid, that I am just not too bothered. I don't see what the big deal is, and how you can even compare this to beatmatching with a record. Lol, this whole thing is so that there isn't any need to beatmatch. If I had the proper interface I wouldn't even pay attention to the grid, and this wouldn't even be a problem in the first place.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Good grief. I wonder what would had happened if vinyl DJ's did that a decade ago. "I couldn't beatmatch it instantly so I threw it away."

What throwing away?! Do you think that I toss any tracks I cannot beatgrid into my trash bin? I'm sure that even 10 years ago, or whenever, there were those tracks that were just such a pain in the ass to mix, that some people never got around to including them in a set. I mean if it's really worth working at it cuz the track is so good, then I understand biting the bullet, but like I said, it happens so fucking rarely that I just don't see it happening.

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Originally posted by Adam420 What throwing away?! Do you think that I toss any tracks I cannot beatgrid into my trash bin? I'm sure that even 10 years ago, or whenever, there were those tracks that were just such a pain in the ass to mix, that some people never got around to including them in a set. I mean if it's really worth working at it cuz the track is so good, then I understand biting the bullet, but like I said, it happens so fucking rarely that I just don't see it happening.

I understood what you were saying.

You just don't bother beat gridding them. Doesn't mean you don't include them


If i come across tracks like that i'll often just mix them in a lazy way, cut all the bass and drop the shity formatted song

Well I don't really know what that meant, but all I'm saying is that it happens so rarely that a track is not gridded properly, that I am not bothered too much when it happens.

learn to beatmatch.

Jason I plan to buy a pair of techs in the next few months. Gonna need your advice on which model to get when I do.

1210?

Well main concern is MKII vs. MKV obviously.

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Originally posted by elzidane learn to beatmatch.

Did that 18 years ago thanks.

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Originally posted by Adam420 Well main concern is MKII vs. MKV obviously.

MK3D's for me and i love em..

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Originally posted by The Don Did that 18 years ago thanks.

neat good for you.

all of this technology and how it is supposed to be easier astounds me.

take the ta mix competition.

no one finishes their mixes because they have to warp/beatgrid whatever they do to new tunes. The djs say i don't have the time to do a 30 minute mix because a 30 minute mix takes hours and hours to put together.

it seems to me that a 30 minute mix should take exactly 30 minutes to do

ps, yes mk3d's

But do they still make/sell the MK3D's? Everywhere I look either has MK2 or MK5.

Also Jay, I completely disagree with you. The reason some people take so long/
don't even submit their entries in the end is because they most likely got stuck
with an obscure genre or they're just fucking retarded for entering the
competition in the first place because they obviously don't really give a shit.

I entered twice and both times submitted my mix significantly before the deadline,
and both times were genres I don't normally deal with (Acid Trance and Indie Dance/Nu Disco).

If you can get the MK3Ds do that, but I think the MK5s are almost the same thing. You want the ones with the pitch reset buttons if possible however if you can find a good deal on MK2s it really isn't a deal breaker.

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Originally posted by Adam420 But do they still make/sell the MK3D's? Everywhere I look either has MK2 or MK5. Also Jay, I completely disagree with you. The reason some people take so long/ don't even submit their entries in the end is because they most likely got stuck with an obscure genre or they're just fucking retarded for entering the competition in the first place because they obviously don't really give a shit. I entered twice and both times submitted my mix significantly before the deadline, and both times were genres I don't normally deal with (Acid Trance and Indie Dance/Nu Disco).

if you make an hour set with completely fresh tunes, does it take you longer than an hour?

you can find tons of mk3d's used. steve's had a few last time i was there adam.

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Originally posted by elzidane if you make an hour set with completely fresh tunes, does it take you longer than an hour? you can find tons of mk3d's used. steve's had a few last time i was there adam.

Well you have to expect a certain learning curve when mixing a format you are not familiar with. And there's also the time it actually takes to come up with a track list you can be somewhat happy about. Trust me it wasn't easy finding 11 tracks that I liked in either genre.

And thanks for the heads up. Gonna call them tomorrow and see how much they're going for over there

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