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Electronica Music and real music?

so basically my issue is that i seem to have a talent for making real music,witch is a real benefit for Electronica.

only the two are very different having the pain staking task of getting things to work for you can be a real git.
making real music progressions from one note strikes,then leading onto full on songs has to be the most rewarding fealing.

And i can go on for hours talking about it all.But the problem still remains i love edm!

so do people here have the same problem as me and if so how did you go about finding a answer?

Make real music with electronic sounds. Seriously, that's what I did. It was kinda rough getting passed FLs loopism mentality. But if you can get passed it then w00t. Because FL gets this mentality from EDM in general. So general people who make it have that mentality.

What is real music ?

wut about fake music

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Originally posted by Subtle What is real music ?

Exactly what I was thinking. Please define the term "real music" for us.

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Originally posted by derail Exactly what I was thinking. Please define the term "real music" for us.

haha,lol sorry didn't think you guys wouldn't know what i meant by that term.what i was meaning is rock,pop,classical you know with real instruments and the such like.

like this?

You are free to mix things up as much as you want so i dont see the problem, this is done all the time.
I would like to mix things up a bit more myself as well.

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Originally posted by Subtle You are free to mix things up as much as you want so i dont see the problem, this is done all the time. I would like to mix things up a bit more myself as well.

i know i just find the hole edm format a bit restricting sometimes. this is why i have turned to breaks this is the kind of stuff i have been trying to make http://vimeo.com/2388735

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Originally posted by owien i know i just find the hole edm format a bit restricting sometimes. this is why i have turned to breaks this is the kind of stuff i have been trying to make http://vimeo.com/2388735

The only person restricting it is you.

Ohh... watched a bit of the video.. dont fall into the "this is what i want to make" trap, it can get you lost forever.. at least it does to me.. i try never ever to think about a specific piece of music that i want to make.
When i do try to make something similar to a specific piece of music and fail to do so, my confidence goes down and im in for a dry period.

My advice is to just make music and eventually you will make something sounding similar to what you WANT to make.. and THEN you can make it.

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Originally posted by Subtle The only person restricting it is you. Ohh... watched a bit of the video.. dont fall into the "this is what i want to make" trap, it can get you lost forever.. at least it does to me.. i try never ever to think about a specific piece of music that i want to make. When i do try to make something similar to a specific piece of music and fail to do so, my confidence goes down and im in for a dry period. My advice is to just make music and eventually you will make something sounding similar to what you WANT to make.. and THEN you can make it.

yes you're right of course i do have a bad habit of over complicating things

Make real electronic music? Problem solved.

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Originally posted by owien i know i just find the hole edm format a bit restricting sometimes. this is why i have turned to breaks this is the kind of stuff i have been trying to make http://vimeo.com/2388735

Breaks is EDM. This track is EDM. The difference between this and the trance you've been listening to, is that this is not shit EDM.

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Originally posted by owien with real instruments and the such like.

Just curious, what instruments do you play?

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Originally posted by Owsey2008 Just curious, what instruments do you play?

none,well not anymore but i use to play keebord.

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd like this?

LOL

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Originally posted by adi_hanson Real EDM:- Fake EDM:-

no offense but

Play the keyboard and record what you play?

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd no offense but

i know i am ashamed

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Originally posted by owien this is why i have turned to breaks this is the kind of stuff i have been trying to make http://vimeo.com/2388735

That's a very good tune but it is not breaks. It's somewhere between ambient and IDM. It's also kind of a rip-off of the material on BT's This Binary Universe, although it's a pretty good execution nevertheless.

Breaks would be this, or this, or perhaps this.

And then on the progressive breaks side you have tunes like this, this, and this.

Obviously it's impossible to cover the entire breadth of the genre with a handful of examples, and it's impossible to find a lot of the really good tracks being shared on YouTube, but as I'm sure you can tell, none of these are even close to the track you just posted in terms of style, rhythm, or even tempo.

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Originally posted by owien i use to play keebord.

Please use a spell check or learn to write. Christ that's awful.

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Originally posted by DigiNut [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#99CCEE]That's a very good tune but it is not breaks. It's somewhere between ambient and IDM. It's also kind of a rip-off of the material on BT's This Binary Universe, although it's a pretty good execution nevertheless.

Acctually, the guy who made that video, one of his vids were in that DVD.

http://vimeo.com/3633531

Real Music? Imo there's no such thing as real music. EDM is just as much music as rock, pop, classical and whatever. Even a rhytmic white noise can be called music.

The argument that "real" music needs to have "real instruments" is just stupid I think. It really bothers me when people say that just because something might have been created entirely with a computer with mouse and keyboard it's not "real" music - Of course it is! It's all about the rhytms, chords, melodies and emotions, regardless of how it was made.

Sure, a guitarist for example, might be skilled with playing the guitar and been practising for years. But for an EDM-producer, the computer is the "guitar" in this case, taking years and years of practise and harvesting skills in many aspects to achive a good standard.

Sure, EDM is usually not as advanced as Classical music. But both is still real music. But to say that rock and pop is more "real" than EDM is ridicilous. EDM tends to be far more original and "groundsbreaking" arrangement-wise than most commersial rock- and pop songs which all usually follows the textbook-standard-arrangements.

I don't claim that EDM is the most advanced style music-wize, but it still deservers as much musical recognision as if you were a pop-artist.

That's my thoughts on the subject anyways.

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Originally posted by [Alpha]Dave Real Music? Imo there's no such thing as real music. EDM is just as much music as rock, pop, classical and whatever. Even a rhytmic white noise can be called music. The argument that "real" music needs to have "real instruments" is just stupid I think. It really bothers me when people say that just because something might have been created entirely with a computer with mouse and keyboard it's not "real" music - Of course it is! It's all about the rhytms, chords, melodies and emotions, regardless of how it was made. Sure, a guitarist for example, might be skilled with playing the guitar and been practising for years. But for an EDM-producer, the computer is the "guitar" in this case, taking years and years of practise and harvesting skills in many aspects to achive a good standard. Sure, EDM is usually not as advanced as Classical music. But both is still real music. But to say that rock and pop is more "real" than EDM is ridicilous. EDM tends to be far more original and "groundsbreaking" arrangement-wise than most commersial rock- and pop songs which all usually follows the textbook-standard-arrangements. I don't claim that EDM is the most advanced style music-wize, but it still deservers as much musical recognision as if you were a pop-artist. That's my thoughts on the subject anyways.

+39271674. You win , Sir.

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Originally posted by DigiNut That's a very good tune but it is not breaks. It's somewhere between ambient and IDM. It's also kind of a rip-off of the material on BT's This Binary Universe, although it's a pretty good execution nevertheless.

It reminded me more of Gantz Graf actually... Then I realised its actually on hybrids soundsystem 01, which might explain where he got the breaks thing from...

Either way, someone needs to spend more time in music discussion IMO.

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Originally posted by DigiNut That's a very good tune but it is not breaks. It's somewhere between ambient and IDM. .

Unnecessary correction imo.

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