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Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-28-2009 23:50:

Can somebody explain something to me?

So how is it that the city will hire private contractors to clean up after Pride parades but has canceled all Canada Day events? People arent even permitted to take wedding pictures in a park. They cant even run the pride flag up a flagpole but they can clean up the parade?

Not that i want the pride events canceled but WTF??? Seriously whats more important than the birthday of our country?

Miller, You are truly the #1 Douchebag


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-28-2009 23:51:

PS fire the unions and hire these contractors permanently!


Posted by Spam on Jun-29-2009 00:03:

Re: Can somebody explain something to me?

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
So how is it that the city will hire private contractors to clean up after Pride parades but has canceled all Canada Day events? People arent even permitted to take wedding pictures in a park. They cant even run the pride flag up a flagpole but they can clean up the parade?

Not that i want the pride events canceled but WTF??? Seriously whats more important than the birthday of our country?

Miller, You are truly the #1 Douchebag


Have you ever pissed off 3 million homos? The combined force from their collective gay-wave would topple the city in mere seconds.


Posted by LightsOut on Jun-29-2009 00:06:

^ hahahahaha


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2009 00:25:

Re: Re: Can somebody explain something to me?

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
Have you ever pissed off 3 million homos? The combined force from their collective gay-wave would topple the city in mere seconds.


First thing theyd take is the CN tower LOL

Seriously though... Toronto has its priorities mixed up.. between this and the stupid streetcar decision its no wonder this city is going down!

Well at least they still had pride. But still! What message does that send to the rest of the population?


Posted by Prometheus Xex on Jun-29-2009 00:28:

Re: Re: Can somebody explain something to me?

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
Have you ever pissed off 3 million homos? The combined force from their collective gay-wave would topple the city in mere seconds.



Posted by mute79 on Jun-29-2009 00:29:

Dunno

i hear that pride organizers put up the money to hire the private company to clean up, not the city..


Posted by Aleks_B on Jun-29-2009 00:47:

yeah kinda a fucked up situation here in T.O City politics right now!


Posted by LKD on Jun-29-2009 00:51:

here's canada for you...

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/t...icle6582726.ece


Posted by I_Am_Vince on Jun-29-2009 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by mute79
i hear that pride organizers put up the money to hire the private company to clean up, not the city..


that and also pride brings in about 80 million dollars into the city economy.


Posted by Abercrombie on Jun-29-2009 01:14:

Simple... Pride brings touri$t$, Canada Day, not so much.


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jun-29-2009 01:45:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
here's canada for you...

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/t...icle6582726.ece


"The Supreme Court of Canada will now consider in what circumstances damages should be awarded to a citizen whose constitutional rights have been infringed � for instance, being kept in a cell too long � but where the authorities haven�t broken any particular law".

This is interesting and, from a legal standpoint, important.


Posted by Knox on Jun-29-2009 03:38:

Re: Re: Re: Can somebody explain something to me?

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1

Seriously though... Toronto has its priorities mixed up.. between this and the stupid streetcar decision its no wonder this city is going down!


+1. tax dollars well spent


Posted by FunkyCrew on Jun-29-2009 03:41:

quote:
Originally posted by mute79
i hear that pride organizers put up the money to hire the private company to clean up, not the city..


yeah I heard that too
Jay, barking at the wrong tree this time?


Posted by me@t k@tie on Jun-29-2009 03:49:

Also, why does this:



look so much like this:



Posted by Silky Johnson on Jun-29-2009 03:51:

Because homosexuality and Walmart are both cults?


Posted by Yohan on Jun-29-2009 06:30:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...article1200161/

quote:
Angry strikers block Pride parade cleanup

Workers say city went back on deal not to hire private contractors


more on linke


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2009 07:10:

quote:
Originally posted by mute79
i hear that pride organizers put up the money to hire the private company to clean up, not the city..


They were going to until the unions asked them not to. So they sided with the unions. Now the city is hiring its own private contractors instead.


Posted by Intangible on Jun-29-2009 18:45:

quote:

Angry strikers block Pride parade cleanup

Brodie Fenlon

From Monday's Globe and Mail Last updated on Monday, Jun. 29, 2009 08:44AM EDT

Angry striking municipal workers say the city reneged on a deal to not hire private contractors for the Pride parade cleanup, which they delayed for hours last night by forming a human blockade around the company's heavy machinery.

More than a dozen city blocks remained littered with Pride parade condoms, candy and beaded necklaces well into the evening after the workers blocked four sweepers and three dump trucks owned by Centennial Sweeping of North York. The machines and drivers had been contracted by the city to help clean up the parade's aftermath at a cost of about $80-90 per hour, per truck, beginning at noon.

About a hundred non-union and management staff, most of them on foot carrying brooms and bins, and some trucks operated by city staff, were allowed to continue, but the delays kept Yonge Street closed from Bloor Street south to Carlton Street for most of the evening.

The labour drama and continuing walkout by the city's 24,000 indoor and outdoor workers played out behind the scenes of yesterday's parade, which drew thousands to the downtown core for the annual spectacle of flesh, leather, dancing and Lady Gaga blasted from tarp-covered speakers on floats.

Mother Nature brought her own water gun to the event, subduing the crowds with persistent rain showers that didn't let up until the moment the parade began at 2 p.m., when a posse of motorcycle-riding lesbians roared around the corner of Bloor and Yonge Streets. They were followed by 160 boisterous groups representing all ages, professions and sexual orientations, from gay teachers to queer police officers, drag queens to grandparents.

�I come from a really redneck area,� said John Teeple, 62, of Washago, Ont., who nursed a cup of Tim Hortons and a cigar under his umbrella. �So this is a breath of fresh air.�

Out of sight of the crowds were picketing municipal workers, who surrounded front-end loaders, dump trucks and street vacuums at the parade's staging area on Rosedale Valley Road. Later, they formed a human blockade around seven private trucks on Carroll Street.

Tracey Sandilands, executive director of Pride Toronto, said the city told her only non-union and management staff would be involved. That understanding was the basis of an agreement signed by her organization and the Canadian Union of Public Employees Ontario, which promised not to picket the signature summer event.

�I don't exactly know what happened,� she said. �We left it in the hands of the city and we're still doing so.�

�We only found out today [Sunday] that the agreement was not honoured,� said Mark Ferguson, president of CUPE local 416, which represents 6,200 outdoor workers.

City spokesman Kevin Sack said the city always hires some private help after major events.

�To clean up after a parade of a million people, it's obvious some cleaning staff will be required,� he said. �If the Pride parade wasn't happening, the city would not have to be hiring contracted staff to clean up from it. And because the union supports Pride and Pride supports the union, it shouldn't be an issue for the union.�

City spokesman Rob Andrusevich added that the city had telegraphed its intention to hire private contractors at a news conference last week.

Meanwhile, the labour dispute also threatened to leave the parade without coverage by paramedics and ambulances after Glenn Fontaine, chairman of the Toronto EMS union local, threatened to withdraw services if city negotiators didn't address their issues. The city sought and won an order late Saturday from the Ontario Labour Relations Board compelling 78 ambulances to be available on standby as an essential service.

Mr. Fontaine's threat was not endorsed by CUPE or Mr. Ferguson, who also happens to be a paramedic. �There's a great deal of frustration on the bargaining committee,� explained Mr. Ferguson, who stressed he alone speaks for his members. �He [Mr. Fontaine] was caught in a situation where he made some unfortunate remarks to the media.�

Mr. Ferguson said the city has refused to entertain union proposals on giving paramedics regular advanced life-support training, increased staffing levels and a modified work program for injured paramedics that would involve them in community-based medicine.



http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...article1200161/


Posted by Yohan on Jun-29-2009 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Intangible
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...article1200161/

thanks for the repost


Posted by Intangible on Jun-29-2009 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
thanks for the repost


oops


Posted by Jayx1 on Jun-29-2009 19:33:

Again I ask, where are the police?

Why is everyone allowed to get away with disturbing the peace unless you are exiting a nightclub?



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