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Posted by DjWoody on Jun-30-2009 18:32:

How Do You Build A Track To A Certain Key?

Hello Ableton Gods. I beg forgiveness for my n00b'ness, but I'm about to sin.

I was given the parts to Paulina Rubio's latest track, Causa y Efecto. That track is currently #1 on the Billboard Latin Charts and she's one of Mexico's biggest pop stars. So getting a hold of her raw material is rare and hard to come by.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/genre_index.jsp

Anyhow, I wanna build an electro trance remix to her song. According to Mixed In Key, the Vox is at 9A but the original song is at 8B/8A.

How do I go about building the track to her key. I've never done that before. I'm using Ableton Live 7.

Thanks.
- Woody



Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-30-2009 18:41:

What does "9A" mean?


Posted by DjWoody on Jun-30-2009 18:47:


Posted by Eric J on Jun-30-2009 18:50:

Re: How Do You Build A Track To A Certain Key?

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
Hello Ableton Gods. I beg forgiveness for my n00b'ness, but I'm about to sin.

I was given the parts to Paulina Rubio's latest track, Causa y Efecto. That track is currently #1 on the Billboard Latin Charts and she's one of Mexico's biggest pop stars. So getting a hold of her raw material is rare and hard to come by.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/genre_index.jsp

Anyhow, I wanna build an electro trance remix to her song. According to Mixed In Key, the Vox is at 9A but the original song is at 8B/8A.

How do I go about building the track to her key. I've never done that before. I'm using Ableton Live 7.

Thanks.
- Woody




Why don't you just write the track in E minor if that is the key the vocals are in? Alternatively, just pitch the vocal up or down to fit whatever key you want to write in.

Also, don't trust those Mixed in Key readings explicitly. I have seen it be WAY off on things like acapellas.

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
What does "9A" mean?


E-minor. Mixed in Key has this system that uses these designations to represent keys.


Posted by Subtle on Jun-30-2009 19:20:

If you where to switch from the A Minor key you would go up a fifth or down a fourth to E minor.

So i reckon there is could be some key changes in the original track, so that the Mixed in Key program reads the key for the original track (A minor) and the changing key for the vocals (E Minor)

So it could be that the track changes keys and that is why it reads those two differently.


Posted by BOOsTER on Jun-30-2009 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
If you where to switch from the A Minor key you would go up a fifth or down a fourth to E minor.

So i reckon there is could be some key changes in the original track, so that the Mixed in Key program reads the key for the original track (A minor) and the changing key for the vocals (E Minor)

So it could be that the track changes keys and that is why it reads those two differently.


I'd think that MixedInKey simply screws up...I mean the algorithms most of the times go off...

and if I can make a guess...I would be 90% sure, that the original track was in A Minor.

or C Major...if it sounds major...you know I haven't heard the track...


Posted by DjWoody on Jun-30-2009 19:54:

Here's the original.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvI6utLGlHE


Posted by atxbigballer1 on Jun-30-2009 22:38:

Paulina Rubio is so Hot! ANd in case you did not know shes my wife!
I get to Bang it every night!


Posted by kitphillips on Jul-01-2009 05:33:

This thread is a good example of why TA sucks.

@ the OP, you NEED (not might want to, but NEED) to actually find out what is meant by the term "key" and work out how to actually write music if you're expecting to produce.


Posted by vikernes on Jul-01-2009 14:49:

The song is in C major and it make the ultimate pop cliche of shifting it up a semitone at the last chorus.


Posted by Getafix on Jul-02-2009 15:12:

You can also check the key in melodyne or do it by ear.



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