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Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jul-07-2009 01:10:

BE my saviour.

ok im a bit rusty with my trig guys and i need help with this question. please only 3 stupid responses per 1 smart one.





A fire hose held near the ground shoots water at a speed of 6.8m/s. at what angle should the nozzle point in order that the water land 2.0 meters away.

(hint there are two angles).



so lets call the angle A
vo=6.8m/s and its components are 6.8sinA and 6.8cosA for y and x respectivley.


x= 2.0m
xo= 0m
yo=0m
y=?

so first i did this

using

x=xo+vot+0.5at*t

2= 6.8cos(A)t

so cos(A)=0.294/t

then i use the time height equation to find height at vo (which is half time.) then multiply it by 2 to get full time.

t=2vosin(A)/9.81

t=1.39sin(A)


so i have two equations put one in the other and use the trig identity

2sin(A)cos(A) = sin(2A)

i get sin(2A)= 0.848

therefore A = 29 degrees

which is wrong.

and there should be another angle i dont know how though.


Posted by Paradox Lost on Jul-07-2009 01:11:

Did you know without Trigonometry, there would be no engineering?


Posted by Domesticated on Jul-07-2009 01:13:

Did you know that if my auntie had balls, she'd be my uncle?


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jul-07-2009 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
Did you know without Trigonometry, there would be no engineering?


yea


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jul-07-2009 01:13:

fuck off next post i hope is an attempt to solve this .

its easy guys


Posted by Paradox Lost on Jul-07-2009 01:14:

...still hoping someone will chime in about the importance of lamps.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jul-07-2009 01:16:

fuck its only the arabs posting.. im screwed.


Posted by Paradox Lost on Jul-07-2009 01:16:

I thought math was something we had going for us?


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jul-07-2009 01:17:

apparently not


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jul-07-2009 01:18:

its up to mrjivebojingles now.. you arabs are useless tits


Posted by Krypton on Jul-07-2009 01:22:

The problem assumes the water is coming out in a straight line, but in reality, the water is coming out parabolically, and so therefore, you should be looking towards a quadratic equation for the water. It's a trick question, don't be fooled.


Posted by ziptnf on Jul-07-2009 01:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
The problem assumes the water is coming out in a straight line, but in reality, the water is coming out parabolically, and so therefore, you should be looking towards a quadratic equation for the water. It's a trick question, don't be fooled.

If you read his work, you would notice that he did do a quadratic.

Do you have the answer in the back of the book?

Here's a link for equations for accelerated motion. I'm too lazy to write it out, I kinda sucked at physics.

http://id.mind.net/~zona/mstm/physi...ratedMotion.htm


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jul-07-2009 01:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
The problem assumes the water is coming out in a straight line, but in reality, the water is coming out parabolically, and so therefore, you should be looking towards a quadratic equation for the water. It's a trick question, don't be fooled.



right fair enough but remember that velocity is instantaneous. so the initial velocity will carry an initial angle which can be thought of as linear.

the angles are like 13 and 77 in the back of the book which equal 90

my answer of 29 isnt working.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jul-07-2009 01:35:

quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
If you read his work, you would notice that he did do a quadratic.

Do you have the answer in the back of the book?

Here's a link for equations for accelerated motion. I'm too lazy to write it out, I kinda sucked at physics.

http://id.mind.net/~zona/mstm/physi...ratedMotion.htm


actually i didnt use the quadratic. since the x component neglects acceleration (gravity) your t*t is nulled out.

my 2 variables now are t and A (angle)

i made 2 equations for t so theoretically (unless my math is wrong my answer should be correct).


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-07-2009 01:39:

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Physics-...le-motion-5.htm


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jul-07-2009 01:39:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Physics-...le-motion-5.htm




fuck thats almost the exact same question..and i did the same thing and they got 27 and i got 29

but the answer should be either 13 or 77


what hte hell.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-07-2009 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
fuck thats almost the exact same question..and i did the same thing and they got 27 and i got 29

but the answer should be either 13 or 77

Unless I'm misreading, those are the two angles they got:
quote:
So 2*theta = 27.6 degrees and 152.4 degrees
So theta = 13.8 degrees and 76.2 degrees.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jul-07-2009 01:42:

hrmm thats odd

i get 58 then divided by 2 .. i need to check my math maybe..


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jul-07-2009 01:49:

fuck it i had it right all the time!


2sinAcosA=.42431
sin2A=.4231
2A= 25 degrees
A= 13 degrees or 90-13 = 77 degrees


thanks mr jingles


Posted by Omega_M on Jul-07-2009 17:35:

you still struggling with math ? I remember helping you out with some calculus problems. And that was what, 2 years ago ? You still in school ?



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