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Posted by tubularbills on Jul-08-2009 23:13:

Someone Taking Over Your Job

I'm not sure if this goes down in the civilian world...maybe some of you have had a similar experience.

I moved here to Vance AFB in January as the Wing Weather Officer; and i'm a 1st LT. My Flight Commander, a Captain, was going to be moving sometime this year; and for awhile, we were not sure if I was going to take his place as the Flight Commander, or if someone else would come in.

Well, before he moves on, our Squadron Commander bumped him up to a higher position in the Squadron, and they moved me to the Flight Commander. I figured this was going to be a permanent move/position for me.

Well, low and behold, we've come to find out there's another Capt who is coming in and he's going to officially take over as Flight Commander in November.

So i'm basically getting this command position, then having it taken away from me. I'm an "Acting" Flight Commander as they told me. Which is kind of bogus, in my opinion, as I will be pinning on Captain next June anyway.

Sucks that I get my own flight; only to have it taken away from me

Anyone else get a "promotion" only to have it taken away later on?

I guess the equivelent would be like you work at McDonald's, and you're the lettuce chopper....but the burger flipper is leaving, so they let you move up to the burgers...only to later on have someone else come and immediately burger flip; leaving you to go back to tossing salads.


Posted by astroboy on Jul-08-2009 23:40:

Re: Taking Over Your Job

COR version:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
...go back to tossing salads.


Posted by Reza on Jul-08-2009 23:42:

this sounds pretty mexican to me


Posted by camshaft on Jul-08-2009 23:44:

c0r version: I feel your pain.

Haha, oh man, the military is terrible about this (in my experience at least, Army 1LT here). Can't speak for the civilian side.

Not the same exactly as yours but - I spent about three months going to specialized training all over the states and Germany for my job (platoon leader in intel), deploy to Iraq...less than a month later, get replaced by someone who's pretty much fresh on the job but for whatever reason they take my slot and I'm pushed out of my shop and lose control over most of my Soldiers. We had another couple moves like that, I swear that can't make up their mind, 7 months in and frustrated as hell.

My buddy took over as company XO for a while, thought it was going to be a permanent move (about year) - less than two months later he finds out he's getting bumped by someone else and he's getting pushed to another unit.

Good thing about the military is if you hate your job and/or superiors it never lasts forever, right now I'm telling myself "five more months, five more months." Sweet deal, I'm hitting CPT next summer as well and then getting the hell out of this damn unit!


Posted by Renzo on Jul-08-2009 23:45:

Michael Jackson.


Posted by tubularbills on Jul-08-2009 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by camshaft
c0r version: I feel your pain.

Haha, oh man, the military is terrible about this (in my experience at least, Army 1LT here). Can't speak for the civilian side.

Not the same exactly as yours but - I spent about three months going to specialized training all over the states and Germany for my job (platoon leader in intel), deploy to Iraq...less than a month later, get replaced by someone who's pretty much fresh on the job but for whatever reason they take my slot and I'm pushed out of my shop and lose control over most of my Soldiers. We had another couple moves like that, I swear that can't make up their mind, 7 months in and frustrated as hell.

My buddy took over as company XO for a while, thought it was going to be a permanent move (about year) - less than two months later he finds out he's getting bumped by someone else and he's getting pushed to another unit.

Good thing about the military is if you hate your job and/or superiors it never lasts forever, right now I'm telling myself "five more months, five more months." Sweet deal, I'm hitting CPT next summer as well and then getting the hell out of this damn unit!


yeah, since i'm not going to be the "real" flight commander, i'll only be here two years, instead of like 3.5 the guy i temporarily replaced. that doesn't really bother me though (even if it is living here in Enid); it's just the fact that they're giving me command, then taking it away.


Posted by Damerchi on Jul-08-2009 23:50:

damn you command vance?..doesnt it have one of the highest amounts of airtraffic amongst north american bases?

maybe you should defect to north korea, im sure you'll be appreciated there


Posted by tubularbills on Jul-08-2009 23:52:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Damerchi
damn you command vance?..dont they one of the highest amounts of airtraffic in north american bases?

maybe you should defect to north korea, im sure you'll be appreciated there


lol, nononono I'm just the Weather Operations Flight Commander. not the whole base.

and yes, Vance is the 2nd busiest AFB in NORTHCOM (we have on average over 150 sorties a day)


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jul-08-2009 23:59:

You're in the Military, so who gives a shit. You always have a job. You're not replaced, your transferred.


Posted by camshaft on Jul-09-2009 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
You're in the Military, so who gives a shit. You always have a job. You're not replaced, your transferred.


You make a great point - job security is awesome. It's hard to hear people bitch about wanting to get out - they volunteered as much as I did, haha. Not saying I don't bitch once in a while...


Posted by Palladium on Jul-09-2009 00:09:

are you telling me that DEY TUK YE OBS?


Posted by camshaft on Jul-09-2009 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Palladium
are you telling me that DEY TUK YE OBS?


This post is much more entertaining than your first. Nice ninja edit.


Posted by tortoise on Jul-09-2009 01:12:

Re: Someone Taking Over Your Job

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
I'm not sure if this goes down in the civilian world...maybe some of you have had a similar experience.

I moved here to Vance AFB in January as the Wing Weather Officer; and i'm a 1st LT. My Flight Commander, a Captain, was going to be moving sometime this year; and for awhile, we were not sure if I was going to take his place as the Flight Commander, or if someone else would come in.

Well, before he moves on, our Squadron Commander bumped him up to a higher position in the Squadron, and they moved me to the Flight Commander. I figured this was going to be a permanent move/position for me.

Well, low and behold, we've come to find out there's another Capt who is coming in and he's going to officially take over as Flight Commander in November.

So i'm basically getting this command position, then having it taken away from me. I'm an "Acting" Flight Commander as they told me. Which is kind of bogus, in my opinion, as I will be pinning on Captain next June anyway.

Sucks that I get my own flight; only to have it taken away from me

Anyone else get a "promotion" only to have it taken away later on?

I guess the equivelent would be like you work at McDonald's, and you're the lettuce chopper....but the burger flipper is leaving, so they let you move up to the burgers...only to later on have someone else come and immediately burger flip; leaving you to go back to tossing salads.



well i (a SrA)was the Go to guy for maintenance in SATCOM @ buckley, i felt good about where i was, we where getting bunch of new booty airman strait from tech-school. i was looking forward to training them better than the last group of new airmen. a day b4 they got here i was moved to QA for 18 to 30 months. im not digging it.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-09-2009 01:14:

Re: Someone Taking Over Your Job

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
go back to tossing salads.




Yessssssssssssssssssssssss.


Posted by l�cid on Jul-09-2009 01:19:

someone is taking over my job after i quit at the end of this month, and i've already been told that if i ever want to come back, i'll always have a job there.


Posted by Lilith on Jul-09-2009 01:25:

Re: Someone Taking Over Your Job

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
I'm not sure if this goes down in the civilian world.

I'm my own boss.
I toss my own sala... damn it!


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jul-09-2009 01:35:

Re: Someone Taking Over Your Job

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
I'm not sure if this goes down in the civilian world...maybe some of you have had a similar experience.

I moved here to Vance AFB in January as the Wing Weather Officer; and i'm a 1st LT. My Flight Commander, a Captain, was going to be moving sometime this year; and for awhile, we were not sure if I was going to take his place as the Flight Commander, or if someone else would come in.

Well, before he moves on, our Squadron Commander bumped him up to a higher position in the Squadron, and they moved me to the Flight Commander. I figured this was going to be a permanent move/position for me.

Well, low and behold, we've come to find out there's another Capt who is coming in and he's going to officially take over as Flight Commander in November.

So i'm basically getting this command position, then having it taken away from me. I'm an "Acting" Flight Commander as they told me. Which is kind of bogus, in my opinion, as I will be pinning on Captain next June anyway.

Sucks that I get my own flight; only to have it taken away from me

Anyone else get a "promotion" only to have it taken away later on?

I guess the equivelent would be like you work at McDonald's, and you're the lettuce chopper....but the burger flipper is leaving, so they let you move up to the burgers...only to later on have someone else come and immediately burger flip; leaving you to go back to tossing salads.


sorry to break the bad news to you Will, but they didn't want to tell you that you have been outsourced. The Captain and the future Flight Commander are both Indian, and are willing to work for cheaper wages.


Posted by Ygrene on Jul-09-2009 01:43:

Re: Someone Taking Over Your Job

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills





On the civilian side, the concern is not so much about someone taking over your job but rather about whether or not you have a job at all.


Posted by tubularbills on Jul-09-2009 01:53:

Re: Re: Someone Taking Over Your Job

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Yessssssssssssssssssssssss.




quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
I'm my own boss.
I toss my own sala... damn it!


haha yeah, i had to throw in something amusing in there

camshaft-i totally hear ya...everone has their moments...it just kinda stinks when you felt like you were doing the right things...going the right direction...leading your guys, etc...


Posted by woscar on Jul-09-2009 01:57:

Re: Re: Someone Taking Over Your Job

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
I'm my own boss.
I toss my own sala... damn it!


callme


Posted by L.E.N. on Jul-09-2009 03:19:

Since its the Military...just suck it up with a smile.

At least they gave you a heads up instead of pulling the rug at the last minute.


Posted by Boomer187 on Jul-09-2009 03:42:

Re: Re: Someone Taking Over Your Job

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
On the civilian side, the concern is not so much about someone taking over your job but rather about whether or not you have a job at all.


And after you keep the job, its taking over the responsibilities of all your co-workers that were let go...oh and no pay increase ktnx



but I cannot relate, I just got promoted, got a sizable increase, and no one will take over my spot!@


Posted by Ygrene on Jul-09-2009 03:53:

Re: Re: Re: Someone Taking Over Your Job

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187

but I cannot relate, I just got promoted, got a sizable increase, and no one will take over my spot!@


Lol, I experienced the same thing! But I still feel extremely empathetic and even harbor a sense of guilt. Its tough not to.


Posted by camshaft on Jul-09-2009 03:56:

Re: Re: Re: Someone Taking Over Your Job

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
haha yeah, i had to throw in something amusing in there

camshaft-i totally hear ya...everone has their moments...it just kinda stinks when you felt like you were doing the right things...going the right direction...leading your guys, etc...


Haha, kinda stinks, try worst thing ever! The military so far has proven to be both the best, most satisfying experience of my life as well as the most trying and frustrating thing I've ever encountered. Keep on keeping on, it's gotta get better, right?


Posted by The17sss on Jul-09-2009 04:00:

Fortunatly, it's impossible for me to get fired from my job. But if you want to hold on to your job in the future, make yourself indispensible. It's not easy but the key is to make your boss believe (whether it's real or perceived) that the cost of replacing you is far greater than keeping you in place. Read some Machiavelli.


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