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Posted by mikefasssy on Jun-23-2002 06:59:

hard house

ok, so i spin mainly hard house. ive been listening to a bunch of hh sets,and i notice that the transistions aren't smooth like trance mixing. is slamming the fader and doing quick bass changes the norm for spinning hard house??? its frickin hard to make it a smooth transisition, like house or trance, but just wondering if you gots any tips.
chhers, caleb

Posted by Scorchio on Jun-23-2002 10:07:

Thats why they call it
Stupid House
Hehe, just kidding, check out some Lisa Lashes sets or Tony De Vit's, try to pick it up from them.

Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Jun-23-2002 10:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Scorchio
Thats why they call it
Stupid House

lol!!!!
I've never heard this music before...... can anyone post up some tracks for download? I'd like to know why ppl don't like it....

Posted by Lars Northrop on Jun-23-2002 10:38:

HOOVER ABUSE !

hehe.

Contender for worst genre in existence, right up there with Spanish Hardcore.

Posted by Scorchio on Jun-23-2002 12:22:

I Beg to differ
Japanease hardcore is worse

Posted by Dj Flesch on Jun-23-2002 15:05:

Different genres of music usually will have very different mixing techniques. Just look at the difference between a trance club dj and a radio dj for rock/pop music. He doesn't "mix" he "cuts" the tracks. There is no transition on the radio the only job he has is to keep the music going. Don't get me wrong, knowing where to cut the tracks takes quite a bit of skill too, believe it or not. The styles can be very different from trance to hard house too. Hard house usually has a lot of break beats if I remember correctly, and so you can't beatmatch and transition. It involves a lot of cuts back and forth because there is not continuous 4/4 beat flow like there is in trance. My suggestion isn't to listen to other dj's HH sets, it to actually watch them live in action. This way you can see how intense the mixing skill some of these djs have, really are!

Posted by Tony Morello on Jun-23-2002 18:58:

i mix mainly hard house as well, and it can be a pretty harsh mix, or it can be seamless
it all depends on the record and if you've got it phased or not

Posted by mikefasssy on Jun-24-2002 00:53:

aight guys, thanks for the help.

and HyPeRSoNiC, check out any lisa lashes, nancy auborne, lisa pin-up tracks, there all pummping hard house.

Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Jun-24-2002 11:09:

quote:
Originally posted by mikefasssy
aight guys, thanks for the help.

and HyPeRSoNiC, check out any lisa lashes, nancy auborne, lisa pin-up tracks, there all pummping hard house.

okay thanx!!!

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Jun-24-2002 17:15:

definitly listen to some HH DJ's... it's a fairly unique genre... HH tends to lend itself well to cut mixing, very quick transitions... it's hard to really mix it smoothly like trance...

then again why try? hardhouse is floor stomping stuff... and it gets the floor moving if you can quickly cut and piece together tracks and phrases.

dunno why so many people hate on hardhouse... it's fast, hard, and seems to be MUCH less mainstream than say trance or slowhouse... which make it quite appealing to me.

sometime in the near future i'll post a hardhouse set to download here... so you can see how badly i suck :P

-mer

Posted by mikefasssy on Jun-24-2002 18:18:

i agree with everything you said mer, and once i get a cable so i can record to my comp, i'll also post a set.

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Jun-24-2002 21:11:

right on... i'll have my domain up shortly so I can actually have a place to post stuff

hardhouse / nunrg is badass... i dont care what anyone says :P but i do love hardtrace too... fast stompin trance is phat and mixes really well into a HH set... so does nu nrg kinda stuff

down with slow boringass beats!!!!! I'm too ADHD for that club n dolphin sheit :P

-mer

Posted by nate735 on Jun-24-2002 22:32:

what are some good hardhouse sets to download?

Posted by Special_K on Jun-24-2002 23:46:

ive heard tons of good hardhouse sets....all of them live. If you ever get a chance to see Jon Doe, billy Bunter, or BK go see them.

Posted by Tony Morello on Jun-25-2002 01:11:

i'm a fan of the lisa lashes EM
and if anyone is looking for some good stuff, download Mark EG - Brainstorm... holy shit, the first time i heard this, i almost creamed myself

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Jun-25-2002 01:14:

alright.. some of these folk are DJs, some are producers, alot are both... but here is a list of artists that have done at least some hardhouse, that i dig.

titchy bitch
rubec
illogik
chris c
lisa lashes
bk
nick sentience
jon doe
stimulant DJs
captain tinrib
DJ Sol Ray
andy farley
justin bourne
OD404
eufex
mark NRG
dynamic intervention
madam zu
paul glazby
lisa pinup
billy bunter
fergie
steve thomas
nick rafferty
karim
samuel e reeve
jon whiteman

Posted by mikefasssy on Jun-25-2002 05:09:

john whiteman - can't beat the system
omfg best hard house track EVER.

i just picked up the newest cap'n tinrip rekkid and it is kickin'. lisa pin-up is also the shit. mer, you and me have like the exact same music interest. hard trance + hard house/nrg rox!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Jun-25-2002 05:17:

yes... cant beat the system is one of my favs !

what's tinrib's new release? i'm still trying to get a feel for the last bunch of records i got... hehehe

ever check out www.bangingtunes.com ? if your looking for UK stuff that place kicks ass ! so much cheaper than buying it local... 4.50 pounds for most singles...

and yes it does sound like we have the same taste in music.. i am starting to like some stuff that's kinda different.. i dont know what the word for it would be, but it's like a blend of hard and progressive house, a little (5 bpm maybe) slower than hoover-style full-on hardhouse.

two examples would be satelite kids - funky nuts... and cortina - erection (les hemstock mix) -- both a little slow, but still hardhouse, kinda progressive/funky sounding.
need to find more of that kinda stuff

i'm still kinda green to spinning... only had my decks about 6 weeks, but i just secured 80 megs of unlimited bandwidth webspace... so i'll be posting a set more than likely this weekend... i want to start getting some opinions of how badly i suck or not

i'll put a link to it here on the board

-mer

Posted by mikefasssy on Jun-25-2002 05:28:

i have no clue what the new toons are, its a promo copy,and it doesn't say anywhere kicks majjor as tho. ive also had me decks about 3 weeks now, don't have a cable to record to comp yet tho

damnit, you have a xone32!!!!!!! i am soooo jealous of you. i think im gonna buy a djm-600 soon, got a numark dm2000x atm,ok i guess. ill check out those tunes and tell you what i think.

cheers, caleb

Posted by Tony Morello on Jun-25-2002 21:49:

check anything on the honeypot label, nukleuz, tidy, mohawk records
umm... i think i know more, but that's all i can think of right at the moment without checking my record bag

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Jun-25-2002 21:52:

dont forget:
nile (which is really part of mohawk)
kaktai
tripoli trax
tinrib recordings
bulletproof
vicious circle

-mer

Posted by Dmatrox on Jun-26-2002 00:31:

I mixed hard house when i first started out. Its very easy to mix and its good for people starting out and wanting to go on to mix other genres that are harder to mix. A few hard house djs do a rough transition, but i find rough transitions are okay only if it happens a few times between certain tracks. Otherwise, try to mix for a smooth transition without any galloping beats. I remember when Anne Savage came here and her mixing was great, i didnt hear too many quick mixes. After 1 hour, hard house gets boring very quickly in my opinion.

Hard House Labels i like:
Tidy Trax
Stimulated Djs
Nucleuz

Hard House djs:
Anne Savage
Lisa Lashes
Tidy Boys
Signum
Stimulated Djs

i dunno i dont really listen to HH much anymore.