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Fellow JP8000 Owners
If there are any on here, I hope!
Do any of you find that the standard volume output of the synth is rather low?
Mine's always been like this, even with the volume and amp turned pretty much all the way round, and the volume on my soundcard set to max on the JP channel it's still showing about -15dB on the control panel.
I can turn the volume up on the variable signal level paramater on the M-Audio control panel in hardware settings but this fiercy pans the input to the right.
I've looked all over the internet and came up with nothing. If anybody has any ideas it would be great.
Yes its very low, my Virus B is about twice as loud.
Btw, dont u own a virus ? then you can put the output from the JP into the Virus external inputs.. these inputs can then be further boosted in the Virus menu.
Just increase the input gain on your DAW. I have to do that with all my instruments by 6-12db ... it varies for each one.
wouldnt this add alot of noise?
not noticed an issue... but then i route mine through a mackie mixer first so can always boost the level on there prior to recording...
if all else fails just normalise what you record.
a lot of my synths are really low as well, only my virus & nord are resonable when recording.
At the end of the day everything goes thru my preamp now before it goes into my daw. even a cheap $300 pre will do quite a lot to your sound (or none at all if you're just boosting) but will sound better than boosting your soundcard and then boosting your DAW (you will add noise and any speaker hum because you're boosting post audio)
well i guess its obvious to say that the jp8000 is missing the unison like in the 8080
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| Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd well i guess its obvious to say that the jp8000 is missing the unison like in the 8080 |
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| Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd well i guess its obvious to say that the jp8000 is missing the unison like in the 8080 |
kicks the ass of most software synths i have (battens down hatches for abuse heheh)
I wouldn't call the JP8080 output quiet. On a number of patches I have to turn the volume down so it doesn't clip when recording. A number of other synths are quieter.
Cheers for the replies, think I'm going to get a pre-amp for it as I'm using it a lot again now and it's doing my head in turning the volume down on the master to get a reasonable mixing level to hear what it's like in the track before freezing and boosting the signal.
It's definitely a lot quieter than my other gear I've had, especially stacked next to the Virus
What M-Audio interface do you have?
I have a similar "problem" with my ProFire 2626. What I got from M-Audio is that the line inputs are calibrated for balanced inputs (+4dBu) only, which apparently has some kind of effect on the level of devices with unbalanced outputs (-10dBu). Devices with balanced outputs should not have this "low level input" problem.
Some audio interfaces don't have this problem because they either have a +4/-10 switch or their line inputs have some kind of detection that will automatically change it depending on the input source.
Re: Fellow JP8000 Owners
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| Originally posted by Luke Terry If there are any on here, I hope! Do any of you find that the standard volume output of the synth is rather low? Mine's always been like this, even with the volume and amp turned pretty much all the way round, and the volume on my soundcard set to max on the JP channel it's still showing about -15dB on the control panel. I can turn the volume up on the variable signal level paramater on the M-Audio control panel in hardware settings but this fiercy pans the input to the right. I've looked all over the internet and came up with nothing. If anybody has any ideas it would be great. |
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| Originally posted by Luke Terry Cheers for the replies, think I'm going to get a pre-amp for it as I'm using it a lot again now and it's doing my head in turning the volume down on the master to get a reasonable mixing level to hear what it's like in the track before freezing and boosting the signal. It's definitely a lot quieter than my other gear I've had, especially stacked next to the Virus |
Re: Re: Fellow JP8000 Owners
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| Originally posted by djdarroo more dynamics this way , more headroom? |
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| Originally posted by No Left Turn What M-Audio interface do you have? I have a similar "problem" with my ProFire 2626. What I got from M-Audio is that the line inputs are calibrated for balanced inputs (+4dBu) only, which apparently has some kind of effect on the level of devices with unbalanced outputs (-10dBu). Devices with balanced outputs should not have this "low level input" problem. Some audio interfaces don't have this problem because they either have a +4/-10 switch or their line inputs have some kind of detection that will automatically change it depending on the input source. |
Why dont you use the virus inputs ?
You can use the Virus external inputs to boost the JP`s volume, and even better you can then set the virus external inputs (direct through) to go through the synth at any time, meaning you can use both at the same time!
And even better better, you can set one of the definable knobs on the virus to control the volume of the direct through, so when you want to record you just adjust the definable knob to turn up or down the JP`s volume.
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| Originally posted by Subtle Why dont you use the virus inputs ? You can use the Virus external inputs to boost the JP`s volume, and even better you can then set the virus external inputs (direct through) to go through the synth at any time, meaning you can use both at the same time! And even better better, you can set one of the definable knobs on the virus to control the volume of the direct through, so when you want to record you just adjust the definable knob to turn up or down the JP`s volume. |
or, instead of trying to turn everything up louder, why not turn the rest of your levels down to match it. :0)
to the guy who mentioned headroom. this way gives you more of it
less of it u mean?
No it gives more. as the signal is quieter. so theres a bigger gap between the loudest point of your song and 0DB
yeah more headroom.. lol thats a trick i use
lower all volumes to a low point then add a l2 maximixer threshold -25 : -.01DB no dithering (on master channel)
Then when your ready to render take it off the master channel and further master it with hardware for final mastering.. thats what i have learned anyways to make a mix sound "loud"
by the way when i mean low volume im serious 
and make sure each instrument is smoothly blended with the other. take note your kick should be louder then the rest a bit.
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| Originally posted by djdarroo yeah more headroom.. lol thats a trick i use lower all volumes to a low point then add a l2 maximixer threshold -25 : -.01DB no dithering (on master channel) Then when your ready to render take it off the master channel and further master it with hardware for final mastering.. thats what i have learned anyways to make a mix sound "loud" |
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| Originally posted by studiobob or, instead of trying to turn everything up louder, why not turn the rest of your levels down to match it. :0) to the guy who mentioned headroom. this way gives you more of it |
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